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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why were the pólice searching peoples homes for weapons? I doubt they were out in the open, so searching had to be done.

    Do you agree with the pólice searching your house after a natural disaster?
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why were the pólice searching peoples homes for weapons? I doubt they were out in the open, so searching had to be done.

    Do you agree with the pólice searching your house after a natural disaster?
    When it was first announced that the RCMP was taking guns they said they were in plain site, late it was reveled that they were searching the homes for them, in closets and under beds etc. The official reason for the searches was to find people trapped in their homes (ie elderly and invalids)
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is Canada really all that different from the US? What are the differences that matter to the issue of murders and gun violence/gun control?
    I think the primary difference between the US and Canada, as it affects to gun crime, is related largely to drugs and poverty within the inner cities. Neither of these issues are as prevalent a problem as they are in Canada. Well, unless we're talking about that mayor from Toronto.



    Then again, if the presence of guns were the sole cause of violence, Switzerland would be one of the most violent places in the world with their permissive gun culture. But their not, which further shows that guns aren't responsible for crime, but people are.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I think the primary difference between the US and Canada, as it affects to gun crime, is related largely to drugs and poverty within the inner cities. Neither of these issues are as prevalent a problem as they are in Canada. Well, unless we're talking about that mayor from Toronto.


    Then again, if the presence of guns were the sole cause of violence, Switzerland would be one of the most violent places in the world with their permissive gun culture. But their not, which further shows that guns aren't responsible for crime, but people are.
    While the mayor of Toronto provides some comic relief, I'm not sure he has much to do with poverty and drugs.

    Neither of these issues are as prevalent a problem as they are in Canada.
    ?? I'm not sure that statement came out as intended.

    But, is there that much less poverty and drug abuse in Canada? If so, then that just might be the factor to look at.
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, not at all. In fact, some other factor must be the reason why there are fewer murders in Canada than the USA. Just listing possibilities, however, doesn't help unless you can make some sort of a connection between those factors and murder/violent crime rates.
    You don't seem to understand what I am saying here. I don't need to provide evidence for each of these potential variables in crime. My bringing these up is to undermine the premise that "gun control reduces crime." It does that by suggesting that "gun control" is a very narrow slice of the pie. There are literally dozens of other variables at play in a countries murder rate.

    So keeping in mind that there are dozens of variables...what is the logic in increasing gun control...when there is no evidence to suggest this is the reason for a higher murder rate...and when the United States has a declining murder rate and declining amount of gun control? The logic is faulty.
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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    But, is there that much less poverty and drug abuse in Canada? If so, then that just might be the factor to look at.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Is Canada really all that different from the US? What are the differences that matter to the issue of murders and gun violence/gun control?
    Pick a position already. Canada's gun laws prevent violence, US gun laws DONT prevent violence. It's all the same thing. It's not at ALL the same thing.

    Bottom line...whatever argument is convenient, right?

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I think the primary difference between the US and Canada, as it affects to gun crime, is related largely to drugs and poverty within the inner cities. Neither of these issues are as prevalent a problem as they are in Canada. Well, unless we're talking about that mayor from Toronto.



    Then again, if the presence of guns were the sole cause of violence, Switzerland would be one of the most violent places in the world with their permissive gun culture. But their not, which further shows that guns aren't responsible for crime, but people are.
    I'll see your Toronto mayor and raise you the mayor of Washington DC...

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    A nation that is eager to kiss any oppressor's ass rather than fight for freedom certainly has less need of a right to keep and bear arms than a nation of people who value freedom and are willing to fight for it, if necessary.
    We kicked oppressive American forces out of this country not once but twice. Maybe it is because America is not a true democracy but here democracy and peaceful negotiation is the way of things.

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    Re: Would You Surrender Your Firearms To Police Voluntarily During A Natural Disaster

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    We kicked oppressive American forces out of this country not once but twice. Maybe it is because America is not a true democracy but here democracy and peaceful negotiation is the way of things.
    That is an awesome bit of history, thank you for that video!

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