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  • I can't believe France is protecting a child raper

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  • The French are absolutely correct to do what they're doing.

    4 14.81%
  • It's wrong, but hey... cest la vie

    6 22.22%
  • A little rape never harmed anyone.

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Thread: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    I've never been a huge fan of France, to answer the question in the OP. The Polanski affair added to my negative view, yes.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Firstly, I'm Canadian so I have my own issues with the French and French people in general - I'm not here to defend the French.

    Secondly, I appreciate your position, but really you can't claim that Polanski is a "child rapist" in the legal sense. That is not what he was convicted of - he was convicted of "unlawful intercourse with a minor child". Now, before you get all ballistic, that's not my decision - that was the decision of the American judicial system at the time of his plea bargain and conviction in the 70s. If he had been convicted of "rape", he would have been serving a life sentence in a California prison, not a 90 day psychiatric assessment, as ordered by the judge in his trial.

    Now, just as with Linsay Lohan and others in the California "bad celebrity" hand-slapping justice system, Polanski went to prison, served his time, and was released by the authorities in charge after he was evaluated as having no psychiatric issues and as no threat to society. You can argue that the "authorities in charge" didn't do a good enough job, but Polanski didn't issue his own release or break out of prison - he left when he was released.

    I wasn't paying attention at the time, but I'll guarantee that the judge and prosecutors in this case got a lot of grief from the public regarding the leniency of this plea deal and sentence - rightly so. But in your system of justice, do you want judges after the fact, after getting public grief, to be able to go back and change their minds when they get pressured? Polanski fled after the judge issued a bench warrant to arrest him again after he was released from prison. That warrant, in most cases, would be illegal and perhaps was illegal here - Polanski wrongly made the decision not to challenge that arrest in court and fled the country instead. After 40 years, and many opportunities to arrest him previously, a prosecutor in 2009 decided to make a name for himself, likely for political reasons, and activated the extradition proceedings.

    None of that changes the fact that Roman Polanski:

    A.) As a 43 year old man, used his position of power as a famed movie director to lure a 13 year old girl to his residence

    B.) Drugged the girl

    C.) Forced himself on the girl

    D.) Fled the country before final sentencing

    E.) Is being harbored by the French who refuse to extradite him


    Look, if he's already served his time, then just extradite him and this whole thing will go away. Only, the thing is, it's a crime to skip out on sentencing like that. Just like you can't run from the cops. So in addition to rape, he'd most likely have to answer for that as well.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    It's not a matter of opinion that France isn't doing it for the reasons you state as being the moral issues of the case.
    What did I state as the "moral issues of the case"?
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    I really don’t give a ****. Look, am I going to sit and weep every time a young hooker feels as though she’s been taken advantage of?

    - Gore Vidal on Roman Polanski and women, to The Atlantic, 2009.
    My sentiments exactly.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    My sentiments exactly.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    I don't care at all. France has their thing. Not worth raising a stink about.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Clearly, the United States is a paragon of criminal justice. Therefore we have a right to judge other nations' justice systems. /sarcasm
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    What did I state as the "moral issues of the case"?
    Seriously?

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    U.S./California handling of the Polanski case was a miscarriage of justice from the get-go.

    They allowed the man to plea down to a sentence of 90 days evaluation in a psychiatric hospital followed by probation.

    American authorities failed that little girl back when she was a little girl.

    Today, that little girl is a grown woman, she's settled with Polanski in a civil suit for a not insignificant sum of money, and she's put the past behind her.

    Today she accuses those authorities who insist on pursuing the extradition matter of grandstanding and attempting to build their personal reputations at the expense of not allowing her to leave her past in the past.

    They're failing her just as baddy today as they did ~40 years ago.

    It may actually be the French who hold the moral high ground in this debacle.

    Understand that I am not saying I support Polanski or that I excuse what he did.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    But I do support the victim.

    If letting this matter die is what will bring her peace then that's what America owes her.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    So who are you to deny this woman her peace of mind?

    And what does that have to do with this case? It was reported and they attempted to bring him to justice.

    She got her measure of justice/punishment in a civil case. She feels it's over.

    Yes, it is precisely about you wanting to ignore the wishes of a woman who says she's done with the matter. Apparently, no one has been hurt in the meantime, thank God, however, it's on the French to prevent that from occurring. They have him and refuse to return him. It's their watch, they've taken the responsibility.

    So if you want to rape a young girl, the key to never having to go to jail is to avoid capture for long enough where the victim has moved on with her life and doesn't want to drag it up anymore.

    No thanks.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I don't care at all. France has their thing. Not worth raising a stink about.
    Yeah, child rape....no biggie.

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