View Poll Results: Roman Polanski and your perception of France

Voters
27. You may not vote on this poll
  • I can't believe France is protecting a child raper

    14 51.85%
  • The French are absolutely correct to do what they're doing.

    4 14.81%
  • It's wrong, but hey... cest la vie

    6 22.22%
  • A little rape never harmed anyone.

    3 11.11%
Page 3 of 22 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 220

Thread: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

  1. #21
    Question authority
    Grand Mal's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    on an island off the left coast of Canada
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    16,501
    Blog Entries
    1

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Alright then what would you call it? Aiding and abetting?
    No, I would call it refusing extradition.
    "I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid people. I meant that stupid people are generally Conservatives."
    -John Stuart Mill-

  2. #22
    Banned
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    The anals of history
    Last Seen
    07-25-15 @ 02:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,348

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    No, I would call it refusing extradition.
    Obviously. And in so doing, they're willfully aiding and abetting a child rapist.

  3. #23
    Filmmaker Lawyer Patriot
    Harshaw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:14 PM
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    29,605

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    U.S./California handling of the Polanski case was a miscarriage of justice from the get-go.

    They allowed the man to plea down to a sentence of 90 days evaluation in a psychiatric hospital followed by probation.

    American authorities failed that little girl back when she was a little girl.

    Today, that little girl is a grown woman, she's settled with Polanski in a civil suit for a not insignificant sum of money, and she's put the past behind her.

    Today she accuses those authorities who insist on pursuing the extradition matter of grandstanding and attempting to build their personal reputations at the expense of not allowing her to leave her past in the past.

    They're failing her just as baddy today as they did ~40 years ago.

    It may actually be the French who hold the moral high ground in this debacle.
    How? They're not citing anything you do for their reasons. They're citing objection to the death penalty, which does not apply.
    “Offing those rich pigs with their own forks and knives, and then eating a meal in the same room, far out! The Weathermen dig Charles Manson.”-- Bernadine Dohrn

  4. #24
    Question authority
    Grand Mal's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    on an island off the left coast of Canada
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:54 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    16,501
    Blog Entries
    1

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Obviously. And in so doing, they're willfully aiding and abetting a child rapist.
    I don't ant to quibble over interpretations. I'll bet, though, that had he been convicted in France he wouldn't have been able to book 'er out of the country before his sentencing.
    If the US wanted him back, really, he'd have been back long ago. You've got a bigger beef with the US justice system than with France.
    "I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid people. I meant that stupid people are generally Conservatives."
    -John Stuart Mill-

  5. #25
    Canadian Conservative
    CanadaJohn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:27 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    27,193

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yes he skipped town before his sentencing.

    I don't know how easy it is for the DA's office in Los Angeles to track someone's movements in Europe or what the paperwork involved would be to get someone extradited. I would imagine it's not so simple for a local DA's office to do this, especially for such an old case.

    Unfortunately, Polanski will never answer for his crimes, and that, in itself, is a crime.
    If what I've read is true, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, Polanski has, in effect, served his time - charges were dropped against him all except one charge that he agreed to plead guilty on and he was sentenced to a 90 prison term for "evaluation" - he served 42 days of that term and was deemed not to be a threat to society or to have any mental health reason for him to remain in prison and he was released. The judge in the matter objected to his release and issued a bench warrant to have him rearrested at which time he fled the country.

    Sounds to me like those who are refusing to honor the request to extradite are on the moral high ground here. You can bitch and moan about the leniency of the original plea deal and settlement, but it's a little like double jeopardy, wouldn't you agree, to serve the time you agreed to and then have the judge turn around and say he wants another shot at you, likely because he got grief from the public for his lenient sentence.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

  6. #26
    Iconoclast
    DaveFagan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    wny
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:16 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    7,306

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Well if you refuse to extradite the known rapist of a 13 year old girl, and you instead allow him to live and work freely and live a lavish lifestyle all under your protection, that's what I would call it.

    What would you call that?
    I'd make the death penalty illegal.

  7. #27
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,703

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    None of your options accurately reflects my position - which is that I am not surprised at all in this particular instance of moral laxity on the part of the French.
    Let's just go further and say they are immoral because they are French.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  8. #28
    economically ☭ socially ☭

    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 07:42 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,148

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    A bit of background. Roman Polanski, a famous American film director, drugged and raped a 13 year old child. The child was an aspiring actress, and he was a powerful film director.

    He was 43 years old when he forced himself on the little girl.

    After being found guilty in a California court, Polanski fled to France hours before he was to be formally sentenced. The sentence was expected to be jail time.

    To this day, France refuses to extradite Polanski. Polanski lives a comfortable life in a French chateau, drinking wine and continuing to direct movies. Meanwhile a young girl's life was forever scarred.

    The French will not extradite him because they disapprove of the fact that the USA allows the death penalty (even though this is not a case where the death penalty would apply). They say they will extradite him only after the USA makes the death penalty illegal.

    How, if at all, does this case affect your perception of France?
    This pretty much reinforces my distaste for France.
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

  9. #29
    economically ☭ socially ☭

    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Pennsylvania
    Last Seen
    12-14-17 @ 07:42 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    2,148

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Also, why was that "a little rape never hurt anyone" option even needed? And I bet whoever voted for it are just absolutely in stitches over it.
    "...it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists,"

  10. #30
    Sage
    Medusa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Turkey
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:16 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    38,081

    re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    A bit of background. Roman Polanski, a famous American film director, drugged and raped a 13 year old child. The child was an aspiring actress, and he was a powerful film director.

    He was 43 years old when he forced himself on the little girl.

    After being found guilty in a California court, Polanski fled to France hours before he was to be formally sentenced. The sentence was expected to be jail time.

    To this day, France refuses to extradite Polanski. Polanski lives a comfortable life in a French chateau, drinking wine and continuing to direct movies. Meanwhile a young girl's life was forever scarred.

    The French will not extradite him because they disapprove of the fact that the USA allows the death penalty (even though this is not a case where the death penalty would apply). They say they will extradite him only after the USA makes the death penalty illegal.

    How, if at all, does this case affect your perception of France?
    l support teh death penalty but l wish such countries stop applying double standard to different cases
    "Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK

Page 3 of 22 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •