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  • I can't believe France is protecting a child raper

    14 51.85%
  • The French are absolutely correct to do what they're doing.

    4 14.81%
  • It's wrong, but hey... cest la vie

    6 22.22%
  • A little rape never harmed anyone.

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Thread: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    You failed to answer my other charges, but it doesn't matter.

    I just want to know a couple things:

    Are you claiming that the US never lost a battle in Vietnam?

    If so, what do you think that says about the US?
    The American military may have lost fire fights during a battle but won the battle.

    I provided the military definition above what a battle is.

    It's like the liberals definition of an assault rifle. The worlds militaries have already defined what an assault rifle is, exactly what the Wehrmacht said it was. Most firearms that liberals have labeled as assault rifles only because they are scary looking to them are not considered to be assault rifles in any military.

    To win a battle, territory has to be taken, occupied and held. Be it on land, sea or in the air.

    The United States never attempted gaining air superiority over North Vietnam. But North Vietnam never had air superiority over their own country.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Refusing extradition doesn't mean condoning the crime. It doesn't follow.
    In a case like this, it certainly constitutes harboring a criminal, being a willing accessory to the crime, and obstructing justice.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    It may actually be the French who hold the moral high ground in this debacle.
    There is never any moral high ground to be claimed by harboring and protecting a criminal of this sort. Never.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    And we limit our options to one of those two parties holding the high ground.

    Then in my opinion, in this case, and only for the reasons I've given (twice now, actually) France takes the high ground.
    That you think taking the side of a monster who drugged and raped a young girl constitutes claiming any moral “high ground” certainly tells us all we need to know about your character.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The American military may have lost fire fights during a battle but won the battle.

    I provided the military definition above what a battle is.

    It's like the liberals definition of an assault rifle. The worlds militaries have already defined what an assault rifle is, exactly what the Wehrmacht said it was. Most firearms that liberals have labeled as assault rifles only because they are scary looking to them are not considered to be assault rifles in any military.

    To win a battle, territory has to be taken, occupied and held. Be it on land, sea or in the air.

    The United States never attempted gaining air superiority over North Vietnam. But North Vietnam never had air superiority over their own country.
    Though I have provided mounds of evidence to disprove your conclusion, I'm no longer here to debate that.

    What I want to know is what you think that represents -- why is it important to you? You appear adamant that the US did not lose a battle in Vietnam -- be that true or false, I want to know what that means to you.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    I really don’t give a ****. Look, am I going to sit and weep every time a young hooker feels as though she’s been taken advantage of?

    - Gore Vidal on Roman Polanski and women, to The Atlantic, 2009.

    My sentiments exactly.
    So you think it's fair, in all cases, to equate any young rape victim to a prostitute?
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Though I have provided mounds of evidence to disprove your conclusion, I'm no longer here to debate that.

    What I want to know is what you think that represents -- why is it important to you? You appear adamant that the US did not lose a battle in Vietnam -- be that true or false, I want to know what that means to you.
    You provided one individual's opinion that is nothing more than revisionism.

    This is nothing but thread drift.

    The topic has been covered more than a few times under the DP's Military Forum. Your revisionism will not stand up over there.

    Most recently with 391 replies with 5,179 views. -> http://www.debatepolitics.com/milita...etnam-war.html

    In my case, I have a chip on my shoulder when it comes to the Vietnam War. The ###### ass holes who sent me 10,000 miles away to fight in a war that we should have never got involved in back stabbed me and 3 million other vets while we were still on the battlefield.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    So you think it's fair, in all cases, to equate any young rape victim to a prostitute?
    Exactly. First, she was drugged and he had sex with her when she was barely conscious. Second, she was THIRTEEN.

    In other words, she was an eighth grader. Not even high school.

    But these Libs want to call her a hooker? SMH.

    Wonder what they would say if a 43 year old man drugged their middle school aged daughter, had sex with her, and then the public calls her a whore.

    Long live France. Btw, the French public overwhelmingly favors extradition.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Exactly. First, she was drugged and he had sex with her when she was barely conscious. Second, she was THIRTEEN.

    In other words, she was an eighth grader. Not even high school.

    But these Libs want to call her a hooker?
    There's another thread, which begins with the suggestion that the pervert-rights movement, on getting homosexuality “normalized”, will logically proceed to try to similarly promote the acceptance and normalization of other perversions, including pedophilia. It seems to me that there's a fairly clear overlap between the pervert-rights advocates in that other thread who swear up and down that they'll stop with homosexuality, and those in this thread who defend Mr. Polanski and his protectors. And what they defend here, regarding Mr, Polanski's behavior, is a few steps beyond what, in the other thread, they swear they will never support.

    It also ties in with the defenders of abortion, who like to equate the innocent child who is targeted by this savage practice to a rapist.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    There's another thread, which begins with the suggestion that the pervert-rights movement, on getting homosexuality “normalized”, will logically proceed to try to similarly promote the acceptance and normalization of other perversions, including pedophilia. It seems to me that there's a fairly clear overlap between the pervert-rights advocates in that other thread who swear up and down that they'll stop with homosexuality, and those in this thread who defend Mr. Polanski and his protectors. And what they defend here, regarding Mr, Polanski's behavior, is a few steps beyond what, in the other thread, they swear they will never support.

    It also ties in with the defenders of abortion, who like to equate the innocent child who is targeted by this savage practice to a rapist.

    No, I'm not buying that.

    I just think any lib defending Roman Polansky is being cheap and shallow. They're thinking about left vs right more than they are thinking about the victim and the crime. Nobody can think it's OK for a 43 year old man to drug and rape a 13 year old girl.

    These libs are seeking out some reason to marginalize or ignore the rape of a child because they're so dug in to their side on this left vs right debate, they can't see the forest for the trees anymore.

    Which is why I love love love this issue. It will jar some of them loose.

    Every dem, lefty, etc KNOWS it's wrong to rape a 13 year old child. Every single one. They have to, or they aren't even fit to call human.

    Now they can choose to ignore it, but somewhere in the back of their minds, they will always know that the big money that buys elections for the Democratic Party, namely the Hollywood producers, are the same asshats that support Roman Polanski and his getting away with rape.

    This is the party of women's rights (unless it's a young girl a powerful Hollywood director covets, then she's fair game for rape) and the party of sympathy (unless it's a 13 year old little girl raped by a powerful artist).

    You know it has to make at least the decent ones stop and think.

    No matter what pet issues they believe in, no matter how right they think they are, they will, in the back of their minds, always know that the money that backed so many of their elections is the same blood money that allowed the rapist of a 13 year old child to walk free. And that money continues to support him to this day.

    The 1 percent.... oh the irony.

    And that's something a normal, average, decent person, even a left-leaning person, needs to sit back and question.

    Is that really the party I want to support? Am I really OK with a hollywood elite raping a child and escaping under cover of night and with the support of the whole hollywood community?

    I mean, people have to look at that and ask questions.

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