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  • I can't believe France is protecting a child raper

    14 51.85%
  • The French are absolutely correct to do what they're doing.

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  • It's wrong, but hey... cest la vie

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  • A little rape never harmed anyone.

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Thread: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Oh I'll disagree with that. The French are an ally. They're just a special kind of "high maintenance" ally that needs to be argued with almost nonstop.

    Also I agree, let's not make the Revolutionary War support out to be some act of altruism. It was in France's interests that Britain should be defeated. That's why they supported us. The same reason we supported South Korea during the Korean war. It was in our interest that the Soviets not gain a foothold in that part of Asia. Same old geopolitics, different players/era.
    Peter, remember when we landed in North Africa it was not German troops shooting at our soldiers but French troops.

    In 1942 the Free French wouldn't allow American troops to set foot on New Caledonia. Admiral Halsey sent his personal Marine rifle platoon ashore and threw the French Governor out of his house and Bull Halsey moved in. The French weren't the best allies during WW ll.

    Don't even want to get into the French Indochina War where the French having an inferiority complex by now refused to listen to our military advisor's until it was to late.

    France doesn't like America or Americans because they are jealous of America and they want to return to the days of being a world power if not a super power.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If it's so unimportant to you (and you keep saying it is) why do you keep returning to debate this? I mean, you've been here pretty much all day. You seem to have some interest in this topic as well and if you don't, well.... bye.
    I care in telling you that this is such a nonissue it may as well be another Casey Anthony thing. I deeply care that you know that this is simply National Enquirer nonsense and if you think it even comes close to be something of merit on an international stage, you're gonna break my heart.

    Sorry if that bothers you.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I care in telling you that this is such a nonissue it may as well be another Casey Anthony thing. I deeply care that you know that this is simply National Enquirer nonsense and if you think it even comes close to be something of merit on an international stage, you're gonna break my heart.

    Sorry if that bothers you.
    How touching. I'm sure you were there on every Casey Anthony or Trayvon Martin thread telling the OP how pointless those debates were too, right?

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How touching. I'm sure you were there on every Casey Anthony or Trayvon Martin thread telling the OP how pointless those debates were too, right?
    Were they trying to tie it to international politics? Tell me if so.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Were they trying to tie it to international politics? Tell me if so.
    Was I? The OP just asks Americans if the Roman Polanski deal affects their own view of France. You're close to going on ignore, bud. You're not making any real points anymore.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Was I? The OP just asks Americans if the Roman Polanski deal affects their own view of France. You're close to going on ignore, bud. You're not making any real points anymore.
    Do you or do you not think the discussion moved past that and into French-American relations?

    You're free to ignore me: you can add that to the list of things I don't really care about. You can ignore everyone that doesn't say what you want, if you like: a third thing I don't care about.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Do you or do you not think the discussion moved past that and into French-American relations?

    You're free to ignore me: you can add that to the list of things I don't really care about. You can ignore everyone that doesn't say what you want, if you like: a third thing I don't care about.
    I'm just gonna do this.... your objection and opinion that this thread is unimportant is duly noted, and now, if you don't mind, I and whoever else is interested are going to continue having whatever conversation interests us as is our prerogative.

    Fair enough?

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    A bit of background. Roman Polanski, a famous American film director, drugged and raped a 13 year old child. The child was an aspiring actress, and he was a powerful film director.

    He was 43 years old when he forced himself on the little girl.

    After being found guilty in a California court, Polanski fled to France hours before he was to be formally sentenced. The sentence was expected to be jail time.

    To this day, France refuses to extradite Polanski. Polanski lives a comfortable life in a French chateau, drinking wine and continuing to direct movies. Meanwhile a young girl's life was forever scarred.

    The French will not extradite him because they disapprove of the fact that the USA allows the death penalty (even though this is not a case where the death penalty would apply). They say they will extradite him only after the USA makes the death penalty illegal.

    How, if at all, does this case affect your perception of France?
    Not even on my radar.
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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    A bit of background. Roman Polanski, a famous American film director, drugged and raped a 13 year old child. The child was an aspiring actress, and he was a powerful film director.

    He was 43 years old when he forced himself on the little girl.

    After being found guilty in a California court, Polanski fled to France hours before he was to be formally sentenced. The sentence was expected to be jail time.

    To this day, France refuses to extradite Polanski. Polanski lives a comfortable life in a French chateau, drinking wine and continuing to direct movies. Meanwhile a young girl's life was forever scarred.

    The French will not extradite him because they disapprove of the fact that the USA allows the death penalty (even though this is not a case where the death penalty would apply). They say they will extradite him only after the USA makes the death penalty illegal.

    How, if at all, does this case affect your perception of France?
    Actually, I thought it was statutory rape with no force involved. But, of course, it was against the law and the man should have been punished. The French behavior was typical of an attitude towards the elite and the US. I think it was rather seedy.

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    Re: Does the Roman Polanski affair affect your view of the French?[W:72]

    It doesn't affect my opinion of France. Pretty sure every country has refused extradition of guilty people for petty and seedy reasons.

    Isn't there a Bolivian president accused of mass murder who the States won't extradite? Sounds a bit worse than statutory rape.

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