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Will you be following Obama's Advice?

Will You be Selling Obamacare at Thanksgiving?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 7.0%
  • No

    Votes: 53 93.0%

  • Total voters
    57
Define 'crap'.

My plan was fine, covered everything I needed, my deductible was manageable, and my copays reasonable.

Now they want to eliminate the copays, raise the deductible, and raise the premium.

Exactly why was my old plan 'crap'?

Because they said so, which is why they needed to change it! It's for our own good, you know! Millions still won't be covered, but we'll worry about that later. Right now, we just need to get this great new plan in place as quickly as we can!

Greetings, GottaGo. :2wave:
 
my parents are on medicare, and i have insurance, so probably not. we will talk about the best way to steal money from rich people in order to give it to the lazy poor, though. then we'll giggle madly, lick blood from our palms, and light cigars with our welfare checks. after dessert, we plan to burn the Koch brothers in effigy.

Booyah! Pay up folks, I guessed it.
 
my parents are on medicare, and i have insurance, so probably not. we will talk about the best way to steal money from rich people in order to give it to the lazy poor, though. then we'll giggle madly, lick blood from our palms, and light cigars with our welfare checks. after dessert, we plan to burn the Koch brothers in effigy.

:lol: :lol:
 
Not sure those are comparable. That crappy car is no good if it doesn't do the job.

It does "the job" but it may require the user to pay for more "out of pocket" maintenance costs. The idea behind these "better" policies is that they cost more in premiums yet have lower added "out of pocket" costs - that is wonderful if you get premium subsidies and perhaps even a bit better in the few years that you need lots of expensive medical care but, on balance, you will pay more in the majority of years when little or no medical care is used.
 
You see, you don't really know what's good for you. Where as the Washington DC liberal / progressive / Democrats really know what you need far, far better than you do, as it typical for any liberal / progressive / Democrat.

My advice? Keep voting for them, and you'll get more of the same.

Read with intended sarcasm? ;)
 
First, if a policy doesn't cover things needed, it's crap. Many did not cover enough on the whole. As these are group polices, you personally are not the issue.

I'll look for it later, as I'm about to leave for awhile, but PBS put out a report showing little of these drops are actually related to ACA, but the normal yearly drops that occur often, and have occurred over the years. But, companies are more than willing to let you blame ACA.

I'd be interested to see how that applies to my, and many people's, situation.

I know more about our coverage then the Average Joe.... believe me, it wasn't crap.
 
The poll question does not match the accompanying post question. So my answer is no to the poll question and likely yes to the post question. ;)

Well, I realized as I wrote the poll question that a lot of people might talk about Obamacare without actually following the OFA talking points, so since the OFA guide is really a sales pitch I made the poll question reflect the intent of the OFA guide.
 
It does "the job" but it may require the user to pay for more "out of pocket" maintenance costs. The idea behind these "better" policies is that they cost more in premiums yet have lower added "out of pocket" costs - that is wonderful if you get premium subsidies and perhaps even a bit better in the few years that you need lots of expensive medical care but, on balance, you will pay more in the majority of years when little or no medical care is used.

Yeah, that's kinda how insurance works. Always amazes me that people don't understand this.
 
I'm quite certain that my fiance is praying nobody brings it up on Thursday. There's already enough drama in her family and having me verbally assault whoever might try to "sell" it at dinner is not going to help anything.

Maybe if you practiced a little self-control...
 
For clarity, this is what he is talking about: It's time to have the talk

On the list of things to bitch and complain about, this doesn't even merit consideration.

Ha ha! That is so dorky! No wonder people are up in arms, we've never had such a socialist invasion of our personal lives in the history of the world!

But seriously, I want to see the Republican family dinner that is so Anti-Obama that the parents ask their kids to just pay the penalty.
 
On this same note, John Cook at SLATE has written an article about how to start fights with your family at Thanksgiving.

I found this to be a rather funny bit of satire ... until it was pointed out by Mediaite that John Cook really is an industrial sized douchebag to his family and that the advice he gives in his article pretty well match what his poor wife says about his behavior at family gatherings.

So maybe it was never intended to be satire at all.

John Cook is basically a horse's ass with a keyboard. F that guy.
 
John Cook is basically a horse's ass with a keyboard. F that guy.

Agreed. Let's all hope his family gives him the Jazzy Jeff treatment this holiday season.
 
Organizing for Action has urged Americans to go to their Thanksgiving dinners armed with talking points ready to talk to family about Obamacare.

Are you going to be one of them?

:mrgreen: I certainly am.
 
Nope. We always want to avoid digestive problems during the holiday. It's all about giving thanks - not about selling insurance. Maybe Obama can start going door to door on Thanksgiving. He'll get great receptions, I'm sure.
 
Well, if it's discussed in your presence, Fisher, be prepared for lots of dumbass comments. Most people don't know **** about it. You, on the other hand, know more than the average bear.

Oh our family gatherings are the Tale of Two Cities--those who have worked non-stop since their early teens and those, who well, are too special to keep a job more than about a year every now and then because they already know everything and won't put up with anything unfair and anybody disrespecting them. Care to guess which city always hosts the Holidays? :3oops:
 
First, if a policy doesn't cover things needed, it's crap.

Does a 55 year old man need maternity coverage and the Pill for free? Does a 38 year old woman need coverage for prostate exams?
 
It does "the job" but it may require the user to pay for more "out of pocket" maintenance costs. The idea behind these "better" policies is that they cost more in premiums yet have lower added "out of pocket" costs - that is wonderful if you get premium subsidies and perhaps even a bit better in the few years that you need lots of expensive medical care but, on balance, you will pay more in the majority of years when little or no medical care is used.

Unless of course you guess wrong and you need more now.
 
I'd be interested to see how that applies to my, and many people's, situation.

I know more about our coverage then the Average Joe.... believe me, it wasn't crap.

hard to actually tackle our individual situations, but we do have rather comprehensive looks at what has happened in the past (mind doubled some years ago and reduced coverage before Obama was elected -- Damn Obamacare). And we know some of these changes are happening with no connection to ACA at all. But letting you think so is beneficial to insurance companies and critics. ;)
 
Does a 55 year old man need maternity coverage and the Pill for free? Does a 38 year old woman need coverage for prostate exams?

Probably not, but others in his and her group likely do, and that is how insurance is packaged.
 
Probably not, but others in his and her group likely do, and that is how insurance is packaged.

No, that is how insurance is packaged now - now that all those plans that didn't have men getting maternity coverage have been cancelled. Your depiction of the cancelled policies as "crap" is in contradiction to the evidence.
 
Does a 55 year old man need maternity coverage and the Pill for free? Does a 38 year old woman need coverage for prostate exams?
Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has a prostate, I think.
 
My family is so far to the right it would be pointless.
 
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