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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I live in Alabama.
    Then you can probably say anything you want. This is also possible where I live. My older brother, however, lives outside DC, where tires can be slashed during desert when no one is looking.

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    They could, depending on the pool. Note that the same sized pool in an office full of women probably pay more for the same policy than a similar group of men would. The simple truth is that women have more medical issues than men do. Cancer patients require much more care than a healthy young adult. The elderly require more care. This is simple reality. We can spread the risk, but denying reality will not help a rational distribution of risk. Why is a life insurance policy for a 40 year old female much less than the same policy for a male?
    The reason is that group plans already cover both men and woman health. So the individual market is being brought up to that standard.

    Why Is Maternity Care Such an Issue for Obamacare Opponents? - Garance Franke-Ruta - The Atlantic


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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    No, I generally ignore Obama and I'm just waiting it out till the next election.

    La dee da (twiddles thumbs)...

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Nope, I'll be working Black Friday!! Which actually starts on Thursday!! woot woot!!
    God bless America. Sorry.
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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Exactly what changes are you attributing to non-ACA involvement that are happening now?
    Insurance companies raise premiums all the time, unlikely ACA affected them. Insurances are dropped, and changed all the time. This was happening before ACA, so you have to show a direct link, and not just because the insurance company says so. There has to be a reason. Business has dropped insurance long before ACA. There's been no real increase. So, while not perfect, and of some concern, it has not been what many claim.

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Organizing for Action has urged Americans to go to their Thanksgiving dinners armed with talking points ready to talk to family about Obamacare.

    Are you going to be one of them?
    What the banana split?

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Insurance companies raise premiums all the time, unlikely ACA affected them. Insurances are dropped, and changed all the time. This was happening before ACA, so you have to show a direct link, and not just because the insurance company says so. There has to be a reason. Business has dropped insurance long before ACA. There's been no real increase. So, while not perfect, and of some concern, it has not been what many claim.
    So the 40% increase in our group insurance received immediately after the ACA passed, which previously had seen increases of the 15-18% range, had nothing to do with insurance companies realizing what the costs of the ACA were going to do to insurance rates?

    So those letters from the insurance companies saying 'because of necessary compliance with the ACA, this policy will not be renewed' has nothing to do with the ACA? Wow, I'm glad someone told me that.

    I'd like to see some numbers, how many companies dropped health insurance for the employees prior to the ACA, and their stated reasons.

    I'm thinking your view may be just a wee to the rosy side of things, Bo.
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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    So the 40% increase in our group insurance received immediately after the ACA passed, which previously had seen increases of the 15-18% range, had nothing to do with insurance companies realizing what the costs of the ACA were going to do to insurance rates?

    So those letters from the insurance companies saying 'because of necessary compliance with the ACA, this policy will not be renewed' has nothing to do with the ACA? Wow, I'm glad someone told me that.

    I'd like to see some numbers, how many companies dropped health insurance for the employees prior to the ACA, and their stated reasons.

    I'm thinking your view may be just a wee to the rosy side of things, Bo.
    And why would it raise? Think about that for a minute. Nothing happened (though such rate hikes have been seen before ACA).

    Not being rosy, but being honest. I don't claim no effect, or no problems, but only that they are over blown, and some either an overreaction or deliberate dishonesty by those raising prices.

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And why would it raise? Think about that for a minute. Nothing happened (though such rate hikes have been seen before ACA).

    Not being rosy, but being honest. I don't claim no effect, or no problems, but only that they are over blown, and some either an overreaction or deliberate dishonesty by those raising prices.
    Nothing happened????

    Can you honestly say that adding 3-odd million people to an insurance pool, removing caps, capping rates and adding PE coverage is not going to increase the rates before the law stops them? Do you think the actuaries didn't crunch a few numbers and realize even in the best case scenario rates were going to go up because their pay outs were going to skyrocket?

    Of course some insurance companies played the numbers game, that's exactly what I am talking about. Get it now while they can, before the law limits them on how much they can increase the rates. Since this whole delay game has come into play, it's another opportunity for them to claim costs and raise the rates....
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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    No. Not sure why anyone would do that.

    Who is that one person who voted yes, and why?!

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