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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    everybody in my family already has their opinion about ACA and we are all in agreement....it may however be the punch line to a lot of jokes

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by fishinRod View Post
    everybody in my family already has their opinion about ACA and we are all in agreement....it may however be the punch line to a lot of jokes
    Families that agree? That's a myth isn't it?

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That helps insurance companies and doesn't hurt them. There is no logical reason for significant reason for rates to go up. In states like mind, they didn't. Some states didn't act wisely, and added to the problems. But logically, having more people in the pool is a plus for insurance companies. It more than counter acts the new costs.
    Adding 3m+/- people to a pool, most who will not be paying premiums themselves (paid by other people) and you don't see a 'logical reason..... rates may go up'? I assume you can do basic math, so maybe you need to check your calculator...

    It takes one person with Type 2 Diabetes Insulin Dependent an annual cost of (roughly) $5000 (barring complications)..... aprox 26M Americans with T2D. How can you possibly think those numbers can work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Adding 3m+/- people to a pool, most who will not be paying premiums themselves (paid by other people) and you don't see a 'logical reason..... rates may go up'? I assume you can do basic math, so maybe you need to check your calculator...

    It takes one person with Type 2 Diabetes Insulin Dependent an annual cost of (roughly) $5000 (barring complications)..... aprox 26M Americans with T2D. How can you possibly think those numbers can work?
    Who pays doesn't effect the insurance company. That's another issue. the fact is they get the money and thus have no need to raise premiums.

    And as most new policies will be with young people, again, they will make more than they pay out. Frankly this is how insurance works. You need well people paying for sick people. This is a win for insurance companies.

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who pays doesn't effect the insurance company. That's another issue. the fact is they get the money and thus have no need to raise premiums.

    And as most new policies will be with young people, again, they will make more than they pay out. Frankly this is how insurance works. You need well people paying for sick people. This is a win for insurance companies.
    It may be a 'win' for insurance companies, they have a captive cliental.

    It does not stop them from increasing rates. Since supposedly 'taxes' aren't supposed to go up, exactly where do you think that money is going to come from?
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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    It may be a 'win' for insurance companies, they have a captive cliental.

    It does not stop them from increasing rates. Since supposedly 'taxes' aren't supposed to go up, exactly where do you think that money is going to come from?
    Nothing "stops" them from raising rates (part of my point BTW), but there is no logical reason for them to raise them.

    And taxes, like anything else, can be manipulated, taking some from one place to another. But that too is a different issue. Cost should be measured not where it came from, but whether it costs less or more. Spending less, even if it is more in taxes, is a fair trade, as it has to be made up some place else.

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who pays doesn't effect the insurance company. That's another issue. the fact is they get the money and thus have no need to raise premiums.

    And as most new policies will be with young people, again, they will make more than they pay out. Frankly this is how insurance works. You need well people paying for sick people. This is a win for insurance companies.
    Young adults aren't signing up and I don't blame them. Why do they need substance abuse and therapy? Why does a young adult need child care insurance?
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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The reason is that group plans already cover both men and woman health. So the individual market is being brought up to that standard.

    Why Is Maternity Care Such an Issue for Obamacare Opponents? - Garance Franke-Ruta - The Atlantic
    Not necessarily, but it's a nice argument for destroying the individual market by simply redefining what the individual market is. This is as simple a denial of reality as the statement that all life insurance policies should cost the same and yield the same benefits because all life is equal - no life is worth more than another. It's really a grand thought. It just happens to be untrue in the real world, and no amount of denial will change it.

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    Re: Will you be following Obama's Advice?

    What's to sell about it? In our progressive seasonal gathering it did make the discussion list, but not the top five things as follows:

    Is turkey day murder?

    Palestine...

    Breaking the taboo of anal pleasure in society?

    Gun control now....

    Birth Control and the GOPs war on women...

    And yes Obamacare will be discussed but not until these top five have been covered. We are progressives, here us roar....
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