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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I don't believe Saddam posed the danger to this country that this nut in Iran does.
    yet we invaded iraq anyway
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    yet we invaded iraq anyway
    Did you figure that out on your own?
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i can't proove it because i don't know how much uranium is needed to make a bomb.

    and i think it is safe to say you don't know either.
    Unlike you I did not make the statement...You did my left wing friend.........Now just admit as usual you were wrongl.
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If your dealing with a sane country that is true....That is not the case with Iran.
    Even when dealing with Iran this is true. Their populace is not that crazy, they don't want war and their government is becoming less crazy. This is the prime time to negotiate to avoid war.
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Even when dealing with Iran this is true. Their populace is not that crazy, they don't want war and their government is becoming less crazy. This is the prime time to negotiate to avoid war.
    The deal is not enough......we are not allowed to inspect many areas where they might be expanding their program........You don't want to negotiate with fanatics who just last week said they wanted to wipe Israel off the map.
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Even when dealing with Iran this is true. Their populace is not that crazy, they don't want war and their government is becoming less crazy. This is the prime time to negotiate to avoid war.
    Talking is always better than war. I am leery about the deal, but what do we really have to lose? If we kept the sanction in place and did nothing, Iran will get their bomb. If this deal works and we get the big deal in the future we will be fair better off and might even start to move towards more friendlier relations with Iran. If it fails, we really are no worse off than we are the day. I think the gamble is well worth it although I think the odds of it working aren't all that great. Even so, I really see no down side.
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The deal is not enough......we are not allowed to inspect many areas where they might be expanding their program........You don't want to negotiate with fanatics who just last week said they wanted to wipe Israel off the map.
    That guy isn't in power anymore; time to move on from that horrid statement.

    Having this kind of deal a few years ago was so out of the question this is great progress. We can inspect things everyday and really, what do we have to lose? Not going to war? How is this bad at all?
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Even when dealing with Iran this is true. Their populace is not that crazy, they don't want war and their government is becoming less crazy. This is the prime time to negotiate to avoid war.
    So.... we should go along with a relative psycho who is polite and suave, as opposed to the one who at least wears his heart on his sleeve?


    Not saying Rouhani is actually a psycho - but the man is working with a different set of assumptions and goals than we are, that people will dismiss as "oh well that's crazy so obviously they don't want that" unless they remember that by doing so they are projecting their own cultural values. For many in the West, negotiations are the assumed norm, and can be an end in and of themselves. For the Iranians, and especially for Rouhani, negotiations are what you do as a delaying tactic while you pursue your policy goals by other means.

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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    So.... we should go along with a relative psycho who is polite and suave, as opposed to the one who at least wears his heart on his sleeve?


    Not saying Rouhani is actually a psycho - but the man is working with a different set of assumptions and goals than we are, that people will dismiss as "oh well that's crazy so obviously they don't want that" unless they remember that by doing so they are projecting their own cultural values. For many in the West, negotiations are the assumed norm, and can be an end in and of themselves. For the Iranians, and especially for Rouhani, negotiations are what you do as a delaying tactic while you pursue your policy goals by other means.
    Better to try negotiations rather than just prepare for war.
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    Re: Do you agree with the nuclear deal with Iran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Talking is always better than war.
    I wonder if the Czechs have any particularly interesting takes on that.

    I am leery about the deal, but what do we really have to lose? If we kept the sanction in place and did nothing, Iran will get their bomb. If this deal works and we get the big deal in the future we will be fair better off and might even start to move towards more friendlier relations with Iran.
    In the Middle East you are never friends. You are either strong and a partner, strong and an enemy, or weak and despised. We just proved that we are weak.

    If it fails, we really are no worse off than we are the day.
    Sadly not true. The Iranians are running a marathon, and every day that it is busy failing is a day they come closer to the finish line.

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