View Poll Results: Should Tipping be figured into a wait staff wage?

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  • Yes, it is perfectly fine for wait staff to have a lower wage, they are making that up in tips.

    17 28.81%
  • No, It is the job of the management to pay their employees accordingly.

    22 37.29%
  • A combo of both.

    14 23.73%
  • I need a beer and I don't care...

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Thread: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, I don't believe it's going anywhere. I merely object to the notion that it is the only way to get good service.
    Object all that you want, but it is more than just a way to get good service, it is a way to get great service.

    I use this to my benefit, and it is very common for me to get treatment well above and beyond what would be considered "good".
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Object all that you want, but it is more than just a way to get good service, it is a way to get great service.

    I use this to my benefit, and it is very common for me to get treatment well above and beyond what would be considered "good".
    I wonder?

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I wonder?
    wonder what?
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    So, the "living wage" thread and the "minimum wage" thread brought to mind an old annoyance...

    I think it is absurd that Wait Staff has a different Minimum Wage.
    I feel that tips should be extra, not expected.


    If you have a great hostess, then the business owner should be the one paying her instead of me. We have become so accustomed to the Tip are Wages that we just go with it and pay the extra 20%. I am a heavy tipper as I know that is how they get paid. I have worked for "tips only", so I understand. BUT.... I feel it is the managers job to pay the staff accordingly, not the client.
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I still made pretty good tips even though I wasn't the best or quickest waitress by any stretch. Being personable and friendly goes a long way. I hated waitressing because you can't count on a set amount of money ever, so it makes budgeting very difficult, you are always rushing around, and I found that a lot of employers treat their waitstaff pretty shabby too.

    Of note, in my experience, I found that a lot old people were the worst when it comes to tipping
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    That might be true of some 'old' people.

    I'm 70-years old so I guess that some people would consider me 'old'.

    I have always left fairly generous tips even when the service wasn't that great.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That might be true of some 'old' people.

    I'm 70-years old so I guess that some people would consider me 'old'.

    I have always left fairly generous tips even when the service wasn't that great.
    Oh sorry! Certainly I didn't mean to include all seniors in that category. It just seems to be more common among that age group.

    I can totally understand that some of them are on a fixed income and maybe can't afford much though.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    So, the "living wage" thread and the "minimum wage" thread brought to mind an old annoyance...

    I think it is absurd that Wait Staff has a different Minimum Wage.
    I feel that tips should be extra, not expected.


    If you have a great hostess, then the business owner should be the one paying her instead of me. We have become so accustomed to the Tip are Wages that we just go with it and pay the extra 20%. I am a heavy tipper as I know that is how they get paid. I have worked for "tips only", so I understand. BUT.... I feel it is the managers job to pay the staff accordingly, not the client.
    I am always perplexed with people who have this attitude. What you don't realize is that you pay one way or the other. If we did away with Tips....you would pay 15% more for you food on the menu. Employers are not going to subsidize your meal. Despite your "heavy tipping", I generally find this type of thing as an excuse not to tip the waiter.
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Yes, it is fine. Waiting on tables is not intended to be a career path. It's a means to assist in supporting oneself before a career or supplementing income during that career.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't think any of that is really true, anywhere. Some people just do a better job because that is who they are, and others won't no matter the incentive. And many of the jobs I listed deal directly with people. Schools will tell you teachers are their sales force. And yes, there are performance reviews, but quality is rarely the result of those. It's a needed effort, but individual motivation is key.

    However, the notion that a waitress won't wait on me well, or do his or her best unless I personally tip her is false, I think.
    If the establishment paid the value of the job, and there wasn't an expectation of being so rewarded, service would not vanish
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    Some people will always do a good job and some people will always do a lousy job.

    That is a fact of life.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    wonder what?
    The true reaction to your efforts. There are more subtle ways to mistreat the guest pushing. I just wonder.

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