View Poll Results: Should Tipping be figured into a wait staff wage?

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  • Yes, it is perfectly fine for wait staff to have a lower wage, they are making that up in tips.

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  • No, It is the job of the management to pay their employees accordingly.

    22 37.29%
  • A combo of both.

    14 23.73%
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I admit it. I'm a chincy tipper. I know what waitstaff makes, and it's not chump change. That's why I laugh at concepts like a tip position minimum wage. Anyone even remotely on the inside knows that the actual check they get is such a small percentage of their wages. Plus people seem to want to "go nuts" with tipping. If service is great, I leave 10%. I don't leave more because of public perception and people want to get into some huge pissing match about "oh yeah, well I tip them <enter ungodly number here> percent".
    To each their own. I enjoy going to the same place twice.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I tip frequently because I tend to go back to places that give and continue to give me good service. If I go to a new place and get bad service. I don't tip and don't come back. On a side note I will argue with management and refuse to pay if they put an automatic gratuity charge on my bill (normal 18 to 20 percent).
    Fair enough... at our restaurant guests were told of the mandatory tip ahead of time and it was considered a contract. Here is the actual menu of the place I worked at:

    http://www.vintnersinn.com/pdfs/dinner.pdf

    You can see the 18% a the bottom. Of course people could argue and change it but they generally changed it to a lesser amount. Once a guy flipped and wanted 0% tip on a freaking huge bill after he ran us around a lot. The manager called the police on him.
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Fair enough... at our restaurant guests were told of the mandatory tip ahead of time and it was considered a contract. Here is the actual menu of the place I worked at:

    http://www.vintnersinn.com/pdfs/dinner.pdf

    You can see the 18% a the bottom. Of course people could argue and change it but they generally changed it to a lesser amount. Once a guy flipped and wanted 0% tip on a freaking huge bill after he ran us around a lot. The manager called the police on him.
    Love-Love-Love! that menu. No problem here with 18% for parties of eight or more. That's actually fairly standard.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Fair enough... at our restaurant guests were told of the mandatory tip ahead of time and it was considered a contract. Here is the actual menu of the place I worked at:

    http://www.vintnersinn.com/pdfs/dinner.pdf

    You can see the 18% a the bottom. Of course people could argue and change it but they generally changed it to a lesser amount. Once a guy flipped and wanted 0% tip on a freaking huge bill after he ran us around a lot. The manager called the police on him.
    If it clearly posted and I still eat their I won't argue unless the waiter was just flat out rude and didn't care ( was only happen once) but I will argue and fight it if it isn't clear marked and they trying to sneak on it on to the bill. I personally believe tips should not be a automatic thing but should be earned.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    I liked the lower minimum when I waited tables, I made "standard" minimum wage of the time in with one "standard" check as a general rule , and I could rotate a table within a half hour or less. I had a good living and as someone else said, my check paid taxes plus my tips if the paid wage wasn't sufficient at tax time but I wasn't hurting at 2.15$/hr.
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    To each their own. I enjoy going to the same place twice.
    See, that proves my point. Everyone keeps trying to "one-up" with regard to tips as opposed to just giving a fair amount. If I have to give you 3 bucks to put a 7 dollar cheeseburger and fries in front of me, how about you go fornicate yourself and I'll replace you with the clown's head at the drive-thru.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Love-Love-Love! that menu. No problem here with 18% for parties of eight or more. That's actually fairly standard.
    Fair enough but many place here will try to do that to a party of one or two.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I admit it. I'm a chincy tipper. I know what waitstaff makes, and it's not chump change. That's why I laugh at concepts like a tip position minimum wage. Anyone even remotely on the inside knows that the actual check they get is such a small percentage of their wages. Plus people seem to want to "go nuts" with tipping. If service is great, I leave 10%. I don't leave more because of public perception and people want to get into some huge pissing match about "oh yeah, well I tip them <enter ungodly number here> percent".
    The nicer the place and the better the service (professionalism, product knowledge, helpfulness) the higher the tip... that is my policy.

    Only one time in my life did I not pay a bill. We were at a pizza place and my bud and I were the only two people in the place. The waiter was crap and after we got are food he sat with the manager talking. We finished and sat there. And sat there... and sat there. As waiters we decided to test them. After well over an hour after we finished we stood up by the table and waited for about ten minutes. We walked over to the host stand by the front door and stood there for about ten minutes. We were in full view of the manager and the waiter the entire time. We stepped outside the door, just a few feet. Nothing. We walked out front 20 feet or so and waited a minute or two. Nothing. We walked to the side walk down the streeta bit. Nothing. We left.
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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    See, that proves my point. Everyone keeps trying to "one-up" with regard to tips as opposed to just giving a fair amount. If I have to give you 3 bucks to put a 7 dollar cheeseburger and fries in front of me, how about you go fornicate yourself and I'll replace you with the clown's head at the drive-thru.

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    Re: Wait staff, tipping, and Minimum Wage

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    If it clearly posted and I still eat their I won't argue unless the waiter was just flat out rude and didn't care ( was only happen once) but I will argue and fight it if it isn't clear marked and they trying to sneak on it on to the bill. I personally believe tips should not be a automatic thing but should be earned.
    Agreed. but at nicer places where the staff is professional and knowledgeable I think that larger parties should be automatically tipped.
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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