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  • Cold beans and a roach motel

    5 10.20%
  • Bunkin with 2-3 friends and take-out

    11 22.45%
  • Living alone in my own place, new car, new iphone

    7 14.29%
  • Who cares, I just want to soak the rich.

    1 2.04%
  • There is no such thing as "liveable wage".

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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    Probably my biggest issue with DP is the constant hyperbole comparisons to Hitler, Stalin, the Gestapo, etc...

    For the love of all you hold dear... STOP... JUST STOP

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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    if living means breathing to you
    I know you live in Turkey and things may be different there... but in the US, a person making minimum wage is not even in the same discussion as a slave labor camp with the possibility of dieing on the job.
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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I know you live in Turkey and things may be different there... but in the US, a person making minimum wage is not even in the same discussion as a slave labor camp with the possibility of dieing on the job.
    tell it to many other americans who agree with me
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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    tell it to many other americans who agree with me
    Please show me ONE PERSON that can honestly compare a Minimum wage job where you face certain death if an order is ignored,,,, wow.... just stop it...
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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    No such thing as an absolute ideal. We could estimate what it takes to live at a certain standard, but whose to say what standard makes one whole. Some people feel a living wage is whatever it takes to be without want; some just want to get their next hit on a crack pipe...
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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    This is why I phrased it by percentages and related it to consumer items. Do you think a full-time worker at Wal-mart should be able to have an iPhone or a GS4 or whatever the next big thing in the phone world is? What about a newer car? Do you think that they should be able to trade in that 2009 Chevrolet because it's getting a tad old? Should they be able to go out to Red Lobster once a week because "they deserve it"?

    People can make it on minimum wage in most places if they really want to (with obvious reflections for areas with high COL, adjusted accordingly). I'm just wondering what all you think they "deserve", because it sounds as if you're wanting the uneducated, unskilled worker to have a LOT more than the "basics".
    The funny thing is that all those things are possible for the low wage worker, if their expenses are low. Some people own a small home with no mortgage and a low tax burden. I work hard to not buy anything on credit so that a low income is sufficient. I even paid cash for my 4 year degree that took better than 6 years. This is why it is extremely important to keep property tax low and dis allow other taxes on assets. Family wealth or at least generational stability can be handed to ones progeny.
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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Sounds like one of those terms that means something different for everyone. The automaker CEOs who flew in private jets to ask for bailouts would probably say that $400k/year is not a liveable wage. The dude from "Into the Wild" would say we can work at McD's a few weeks to buy a plane ticket to alaska and then live off the land. Others will say they have $400/mo in student loan debt, so minimum wage ain't gonna cut it.

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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    I collect old cars so my livable wage wqould be much higher tan many other people.

    Old cars are worse than a drug habit.

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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The question was asked to define what a liveable wage is. Like I said, the definition doesn't allow a "set" amount to be set because everyone's "liveable" wage is different was the point I was trying to make. You can't have a set amount on liveable.

    Not sure why the hostile response to what I said, but whatever floats your boat. You seem to want to put words in my mouth as to what I was saying, and what you are saying is simple not true to what I want. Try again.
    If what you say is true, then a business could never pay a livable wage because it does vary.

    If a business is made to pay what each employee needs to survive, then only teenagers living at home will get hired for the fast food and other similar industries.

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    Re: What is a "liveable wage"?

    This thread restores some faith in humanity. There are fewer illiterates kicking around that term now.

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