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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Everytime he pisses you off.

    That's a positive in my book.
    Good thing we're dealing with Iran, at all...the Canadians don't have the balls to do it. You're welcome for your freedom.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, sweet Jeebus, where do you think you're going to get the outline of the agreement to begin with??

    And yes, we could certainly walk in and upload some more fun and exciting viruses onto their computers, and of course future negotiations would be rendered fubar. I don't see how sacrificing all credibility in future deals helps us.
    First off, I was looking more for someone's analysis who's in the know. Obama, just like the republicans, are going to put their spin on it. The language of the fact sheet is after all, well thought out with how many different ways it says "temporary". And I wasn't recommending that we do something like that Virus, just complimenting the Iranians for being willing to go that far. Were I them... that be a hard pill for me to swallow.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure, I'll give him credit for killing UBL. He owns the debacle commonly known as Obamacare, too...yes?
    Preaching to the choir on that one. It's just I hate hearing absolutist statements like "When *did* he do something positive.

    Maybe I'm just a glass half full guy though.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Preaching to the choir on that one. It's just I hate hearing absolutist statements like "When *did* he do something positive.

    Maybe I'm just a glass half full guy though.
    Obamacare has overshadowed the one, or two things he managed to pull out of his ass.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Provide daily access by IAEA inspectors at Natanz and Fordow. This daily access will permit inspectors to review surveillance camera footage to ensure comprehensive monitoring. This access will provide even greater transparency into enrichment at these sites and shorten detection time for any non-compliance.
    Provide IAEA access to centrifuge assembly facilities.
    Provide IAEA access to centrifuge rotor component production and storage facilities.
    Provide IAEA access to uranium mines and mills.
    Provide long-sought design information for the Arak reactor. This will provide critical insight into the reactor that has not previously been available.
    Provide more frequent inspector access to the Arak reactor.
    Provide certain key data and information called for in the Additional Protocol to Iran's IAEA Safeguards Agreement and Modified Code 3.1.

    Read the White House fact sheet on Iran nuclear deal - World News
    I just read almost the same thing on CNN's site after reading your post. Thanks for posting this.

    Then I can't understand why the IAEA was on television saying that the deal didn't meet their normal standards of inspection? Maybe it's that they are involved, but not at the level they normally would be?

    I don't know. I was just repeating what I heard an IAEA representative say in an interview on CNN; that's why I went to their site to see if I could find the clip. If I do, I'll post it so you can see where I was coming from.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    First off, I was looking more for someone's analysis who's in the know. Obama, just like the republicans, are going to put their spin on it. The language of the fact sheet is after all, well thought out with how many different ways it says "temporary". And I wasn't recommending that we do something like that Virus, just complimenting the Iranians for being willing to go that far. Were I them... that be a hard pill for me to swallow.
    Keep scrolling down in that link I gave you. Iran gets perks out of the deal.

    As for an analysis, all you're really going to find are biases that are either laughably optimistic or pessimistic. The real analysis is in how this looks in six months time.

    As for it being temporary, it's completely normal for contracts to be limited in duration so that after a trial period everyone can come back and put their two cents in on what does and doesn't work. I make contracts with distributers frequently and I've never created a "til death do us part" agreement.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I just read almost the same thing on CNN's site after reading your post. Thanks for posting this.

    Then I can't understand why the IAEA was on television saying that the deal didn't meet their normal standards of inspection? Maybe it's that they are involved, but not at the level they normally would be?

    I don't know. I was just repeating what I heard an IAEA representative say in an interview on CNN; that's why I went to their site to see if I could find the clip. If I do, I'll post it so you can see where I was coming from.
    I would be interested in seeing that.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Obama was promised 72 virgins to pull this deal off

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It's pretty clear since the pitfalls of his signature legislation are shinning thru, the democratic parties nuclear option on the senate, his own White House kicking the media photographers out, the pres had had a pretty lousy 15-30 days so would he make a deal with Iran just to turn the tide? Make him look all presidential again?

    Before you say no way, what did billy jeff do after being caught with Monica?
    No, the president has been working on this since the first day he came into office. Although leery about the deal, personally I believe it is worth the try. Leaving things as is, Iran was moving towards the bomb and would have it soon. This deal doesn't prevent that, but it may lay the framework at a later time to stop Iran just short. One does not know what will happen, either those for or against. History will have to be the final arbitrator on this deal. But since Iran was going to have the bomb sooner or latter, months to a year, I think it is worth the try, the risk, etc. We really have nothing to lose, if we do nothing and leave the sanctions on, Iran gets the bomb. If we try this and it fails to lead to a second agreement, the president will look like another Neville Chamberlain and Iran gets the bomb. But if it works, another agreement follows this one, our relationship with Iran improves and they stop short of the bomb, miracles can happen and this deal would have lead the way.


    So no, I don't think this deal was to take the public's attention off Obamacare. Even if it was, it wouldn't work. Obamacare isn't going away.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It's pretty clear since the pitfalls of his signature legislation are shinning thru, the democratic parties nuclear option on the senate, his own White House kicking the media photographers out, the pres had had a pretty lousy 15-30 days so would he make a deal with Iran just to turn the tide? Make him look all presidential again?


    Before you say no way, what did billy jeff do after being caught with Monica?



    Any deal that any president (Not just Obama.) makes with any countries (Not just Iran) that is good for the USA will make that president look good.

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