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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    I sense the same euphoria over this deal as there was with North Koreas deal with billy. And that accomplished? It's almost like some want obama to have a success so bad that they can't even critically view the deal at all? Amazing these people would trust a nation that stones to death gay teenagers just to empower their chosen leader?

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    He was rolling his eyes at me.

    When it comes to Obama, Joko is never sarcastic.

    He's pretty rabidly partisan with him.
    Really? Oh. In that light then his comment is pretty asinine.
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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Targeted along with, not at. It's like laughing with someone instead of at someone.
    I really don't think that was the case

    He was rolling his eyes at me.

    When it comes to Obama, Joko is never sarcastic.

    He's pretty rabidly partisan with him.
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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    I sense the same euphoria over this deal as there was with North Koreas deal with billy. And that accomplished? It's almost like some want obama to have a success so bad that they can't even critically view the deal at all? Amazing these people would trust a nation that stones to death gay teenagers just to empower their chosen leader?
    this is only a interim deal, Iran will freeze development of its nuclear program for 6 months in exchange relief aid from sanctions. the long term deal has yet to be negotiated.
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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    At the risk of sounding uneducated... what is the outline of this "plan" All the details I've found is that the Iranians like the deal and Israel hates it which to me, not knowing the details, doesn't seem good.
    Read the White House fact sheet on Iran nuclear deal - World News

    Halt all enrichment above 5% and dismantle the technical connections required to enrich above 5%.
    Dilute below 5% or convert to a form not suitable for further enrichment its entire stockpile of near-20% enriched uranium before the end of the initial phase.
    Not install additional centrifuges of any type.
    Not install or use any next-generation centrifuges to enrich uranium.
    Leave inoperable roughly half of installed centrifuges at Natanz and three-quarters of installed centrifuges at Fordow, so they cannot be used to enrich uranium.
    Limit its centrifuge production to those needed to replace damaged machines, so Iran cannot use the six months to stockpile centrifuges.
    Not construct additional enrichment facilities.
    Not increase its stockpile of 3.5% low enriched uranium, so that the amount is not greater at the end of the six months than it is at the beginning, and any newly enriched 3.5% enriched uranium is converted into oxide.
    Not commission the Arak reactor.
    Not fuel the Arak reactor.
    Halt the production of fuel for the Arak reactor.
    No additional testing of fuel for the Arak reactor.
    Not install any additional reactor components at Arak.
    Not transfer fuel and heavy water to the reactor site.
    Not construct a facility capable of reprocessing. Without reprocessing, Iran cannot separate plutonium from spent fuel.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    this is only a interim deal, Iran will freeze development of its nuclear program for 6 months in exchange relief aid from sanctions. the long term deal has yet to be negotiated.
    I'm assuming that weapons inspectors are going in to verify this stuff right?

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    This deal would be a good deal, if it was a good deal. We don't know if it is or not yet. The history of the Iranians is that they don't keep their deals. Like the one they didn't keep to the Bush Administration or the UN Security Council.

    The next six months will tell the tale. But based on the historical record of Iran, I'm not optimistic.

    As to OP's question? Of course he would. As would most other Presidents. Obamafile supporters proclamations to the opposite aside. This isn't a political anomaly for only Democrats. And lately, the proven proclivity for the current Administration to lie to the American people to get what they want and make themselves look good, is more than enough reason to at least have a little doubt.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm assuming that weapons inspectors are going in to verify this stuff right?
    Don't see much point if they can't (under the terms they can).

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    I'm assuming that weapons inspectors are going in to verify this stuff right?
    Yes and no. The deal doesn't have IAEA level inspections, which would allow the Iranians to hide things.

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    Re: Would obama make a deal with Iran to bolster himself

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Yes and no. The deal doesn't have IAEA level inspections, which would allow the Iranians to hide things.
    Provide daily access by IAEA inspectors at Natanz and Fordow. This daily access will permit inspectors to review surveillance camera footage to ensure comprehensive monitoring. This access will provide even greater transparency into enrichment at these sites and shorten detection time for any non-compliance.
    Provide IAEA access to centrifuge assembly facilities.
    Provide IAEA access to centrifuge rotor component production and storage facilities.
    Provide IAEA access to uranium mines and mills.
    Provide long-sought design information for the Arak reactor. This will provide critical insight into the reactor that has not previously been available.
    Provide more frequent inspector access to the Arak reactor.
    Provide certain key data and information called for in the Additional Protocol to Iran's IAEA Safeguards Agreement and Modified Code 3.1.

    Read the White House fact sheet on Iran nuclear deal - World News

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