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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by McjaqqerSwaqqer View Post
    One of my friends recently got into a heated debate with me as to weather or not millions of people are going to have to die as a result of rapid population growth. His logic was that as resources become depleted, and demand grows, people will be forced to fight over the remaining resources and in the process will have to kill each other. I however disagreed. I stated that I understood the premise behind which this scenario would take place. However I argued the inevitability of this situation ever presenting itself. I stated that through technological and intellectual achievements we will have the potential to maintain a larger more robust population indefinitely. My logic was the following.... Today we live in a world of 7 billion people. 300 years ago we could never have hoped to maintain such a large population effectively. However due to technological and other developments we are able to. Why must this trend which has been going on since the dawn of men stop now?..... My friend went on to argue that the killing of millions of people might not be such a bad thing because it would help others survive more efficiently and allow them to have more resources. HE ARGUED THAT THE DEATH OF MILLIONS WOULD BE BETTER FOR MANKIND. To this I replied, who decides who dies and who doesn't. I also replied saying that he was out of his mind. I just want to receive reassurance that I was not the one with faulty logic because I was in a setting in which 5 people were supporting his thinking and only two other people were supporting mine. (The people who supported the person with this reasoning supported him primarily because they believe he is some freaken diety and because they don't like me)
    I think everybody living today will be dead by November 3, 2134. That's over 7 billion people.

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    It would make sense if we were locust or even sheep. But we happen to be a species that creates and develops "resources". Not coincidentally, life is just fine in densely populated Holland, and not so comfortable in near-empty Ethiopia. It is about good government, culture and infrastructures, not about how many people are there. The more, the better, as long as they behave.
    We don't create resources and this isn't about population density in individual regions. You know resources can be transported from one area to another, right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    People who do the deed should pay for their own consequences. If you don't want to pay the consequences then don't do the deed.
    Don't want to go to jail for murder then don't committ murder.
    Don't want to have starving kids that you can't afford to feed then don't make kids.
    It is that simple.
    If you do the crime you do the time.
    If you have kids you can't afford to feed you get to watch them starve to death.
    It is that simple.
    Ladies and gentlemen, libertarianism.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    We don't create resources and this isn't about population density in individual regions. You know resources can be transported from one area to another, right?
    Sure we do create resources: electricity doesn't flow through some natural conducting rivers; or compare the productivity of agriculture today and even 50 years ago: we bind carbon and other elements in a way useful for us that wasn't there before. Particular forms of raw materials are limited in nature, of course; but there's no reason to think that our ability to come up alternatives and improvements is limited as well.

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Neo-malthusians need to go away. Forever.
    Hey, I learned a new word! Now all I have to do if figure how to use it in day to day conversations.

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Haha, why, because their insights make you uncomfortable?
    If we cease to talk about world hunger, suddenly everyone will have food. /snark
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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    I don't have sex, I don't have kids.
    I, for one, thank you.

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Neo-malthusians need to go away. Forever.
    Exactly!

    If they all committed mass suicide then that would alleviate their overpopulation concerns in one fell swoop.

    Maybe we could make a holiday out of it where one day each year it is perfectly legal to murder everyone who has professed that the planet is "overpopulated".

    Problem solved.

    Call it the Anti-Hypocrite day.
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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    If we cease to talk about world hunger, suddenly everyone will have food. /snark
    It worked with California's huge budget deficit, why not world hunger?

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    Re: Is it inevitable that due to rapid population growth millions of people will die?

    Quote Originally Posted by McjaqqerSwaqqer View Post
    One of my friends recently got into a heated debate with me as to weather or not millions of people are going to have to die as a result of rapid population growth. His logic was that as resources become depleted, and demand grows, people will be forced to fight over the remaining resources and in the process will have to kill each other.
    Your friend is sadly underinformed. Due to decreasing birthrates, we are actually currently entering Peak Baby (if you will). From here on out growth in the human populace is not exponential, but rather stabilizes, ages, and begins to shrink.

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