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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Why not? It's these kinds of stupid statements that drive me crazy. He worked in the building that overlooked the motorcade - a route he knew because they had published it in the newspaper. He bought the rifle and took it into the building. It was an easy shot for even a mediocre marksman, which he was not. Why couldn't he have assassinated the President by himself?

    I know many people graduate from fairly tales to conspiracy theories as they get older, but perhaps you could tell us why he couldn't have acted alone.
    Because I believe the 2nd and 3rd shots came right on top of each other. Oswald wouldn't have had time to readjust (is that the word?) his rifle. Also, there is evidence that bullets were coming from more than one direction. I'm sorry, but the lone gunman story just doesn't hold up.
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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1858 View Post
    Because I believe the 2nd and 3rd shots came right on top of each other. Oswald wouldn't have had time to readjust (is that the word?) his rifle. Also, there is evidence that bullets were coming from more than one direction. I'm sorry, but the lone gunman story just doesn't hold up.
    Well, you are incorrect about the shots. There were three and any competent marksman could have done it, which has been proven time and time again. There was no second gunman. Nobody has reported seeing one. What does exist is a lot of gullible people willing to believe any crazy theory out there.
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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Your beliefs sound like religious conviction. Go with the flow. Ignore reality. No point in risking your sanity by allowing logic and reason to interfere, eh?
    Conspiracy theories freaks talking about logic and reason is hilarious. Conspiracy theorists generally consist of three basic groups: the gullible, who also believed in fairly tales long after the rest of us stopped believing; the right wing nuts who are convinced it was a communist inspired act, funded by Moscow/Cuba/Both; and the left wing nuts who subscribe to the U.S. Government/CIA/LBJ/MOB theory. All equally crazy.

    The great thing about this is that, no matter what your level of delusion/paranoia/hatred is, there's a conspiracy theory out there for you.
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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I believe Oswald shot him at least once. I have a big problem with him making the second shot with a mauser type rifle and get back on target and actually aim. Possible but not too likely.
    But competent marksman have done it numerous times, using the same type rifle Oswald used.
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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    He was barely competent when in the Marine Corps, I have read he fired sharpshooter. Must have had a lot of practice in Moscow.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, you are incorrect about the shots. There were three and any competent marksman could have done it, which has been proven time and time again. There was no second gunman. Nobody has reported seeing one. What does exist is a lot of gullible people willing to believe any crazy theory out there.
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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I believe Oswald shot him at least once. I have a big problem with him making the second shot with a mauser type rifle and get back on target and actually aim. Possible but not too likely.
    Uh I was able to make two shots with a 30-06 rifle (much more recoil than the 6.5X52mm) in a couple seconds as a 15 year old kid on a target set up to replicate the speed and size of LHO's target.

    Lots of people have done that too.

    I watched famed Kenyan Professional Hunter, the Late Steven Smith, shoot two running (at full speed) Hyenas with a 458 Winchester Magnum Model 70 (bolt gun, iron sights) in under three seconds.



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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
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    Richard Helms: The Most Dangerous CIA Director | Veterans Today
    "Helms’s responsibility for Oswald’s mission was demonstrated soon after he entered the USSR. He had Priscilla Johnson McMillan interview Oswald in Moscow, and file her story from there to rekindle his chances of being taken up by the Soviets for a mission in which he could take out a Soviet leader, particularly Khrushchev, if he got the chance. When this effort was apparently failing, Helms was responsible for the effort in the summer of 1960 to contact Oswald through people in the Domestic Contacts Division in the hope, it seems, of recruiting him as an agent, or at least giving the Agency subsequently an alibi about his not being one of theirs. A year later, Mrs. Marie Hyde, an apparent American agent, hitched a ride with Rita Naman and Monica Kramer, British subjects, to Minsk, where the KGB had an espionage training school, from Moscow where they had run into the ex-Marine, and Oswald was then photographed showing the tourists the City Square, especially its towering statue of Lenin."
    I took a look at that website.
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    I have heard or your shooting expertise etc. Wonderful. I just said it was possible O made the shots, but I doubt it. He fired sharpshooter in the USMC, never expert.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Uh I was able to make two shots with a 30-06 rifle (much more recoil than the 6.5X52mm) in a couple seconds as a 15 year old kid on a target set up to replicate the speed and size of LHO's target.

    Lots of people have done that too.

    I watched famed Kenyan Professional Hunter, the Late Steven Smith, shoot two running (at full speed) Hyenas with a 458 Winchester Magnum Model 70 (bolt gun, iron sights) in under three seconds.
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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I have heard or your shooting expertise etc. Wonderful. I just said it was possible O made the shots, but I doubt it. He fired sharpshooter in the USMC, never expert.
    well I know more about shooting than 99% of the people in the world and I know it was an easy shot even for a "marksman". Ray Carter-World Free rifle champion in the late 70s and top instructor at the USAMU-Fort Benning, said most of the recruits in the army could have done it. Ray was one of my coaches when I was at the USO training Center at colorado springs. if you know how to lead a target its a simple shot



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    Re: Did Oswald kill Kennedy

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    He was barely competent when in the Marine Corps, I have read he fired sharpshooter. Must have had a lot of practice in Moscow.
    Have you ever been to Dealey Plaza in Dallas - to the 6th floor of the School Book Depository? I have, and its a surprising short distance to where Kennedy's car was traveling - at 12 miles per hour. Very, very short. Here's Oswald's military record as a rifleman.

    ANDERSON EXHIBIT 1

    This was an easy shot for even a barely competent marksman. For a rifleman with a scope, it was pathetically easy.

    lee harvey oswald's rifle photos - Yahoo Search Results

    http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/201...lds-rifle.html

    Yet more people engaged in the giant conspiracy, no doubt.
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