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    Re: Learn english first

    What about employers who won't hire people who don't know Spanish. Being bilingual is basically a necessity for some areas of business.

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    Re: Learn english first

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What about employers who won't hire people who don't know Spanish. Being bilingual is basically a necessity for some areas of business.
    If that is a requirement for the job, then they should know it.

    If I worked with an Import-Export business that did a lot of business in Russia, it would probably be a good idea to know Russian. If I worked for a French press outlet in the US, then it would probably be a good idea to know French.

    Just like if you work for a company in Quebec and do a lot of business in the US, you had better know English.

    The Company I work for has many technicians in Quebec and other areas of Canada. Since myself and the rest of the tech staff operates in English, those field techs must show English proficiency as part of their interview process.
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    Re: Learn english first

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I do believe that English is the language of our nation and it annoys me that my neighbors, who are good folks, speak Spanish to their little kids.

    Also, being bi-lingual adds value to the employee because, well, so many people come here and don't bother learning English and we have accommodated this to the point of absurdity. Now in some jobs, I suppose it doesn't matter but I would not likely hire a non-english speaking employee. But all it takes is one good amnesty and Spanish will become our primary language. I suppose this is continent appropriate but I still dread the day.

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    Linguistic imperialism is a terrible idea. By the 2nd generation most immigrant groups have willingly incorporated themselves into the English world without the need for social intervention. The Polish, Germans and Chinese immigration waves in the early 20th century are proof of this. "Requiring" people to learn a language for any reason is incredibly naive as it doesn't take into account the very human need to hold on to cultural traits and values that can only be passed down through language. That said, languages should be treated with a free market spirit. A person who speaks 2-3 languages should be more valuable than a monoglot. As that already is the case, I see no reason for any further intervention.
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    Re: Learn english first

    I think employees should communicate in a language that all can understand otherwise it will hinder work. Which language that should be is usually determined by the predominant culture.

    If the majority speaks English there would be no point in the majority learning the language of the minority. Hence the minority should learn the language of the majority and this should be a pre-condition to jobs and other services.

    Bilingualism could be an alternative solution. But then both the majority and the minority should choose to be bilinguals.
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    Re: Learn english first

    Yeah, absolutely. There are a ton of jobs where speaking English is a necessary part of your duties.
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    Re: Learn english first

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    The napalian speaks english well enough to talk politics with me
    Really? I'm a native speaker of English and I've no idea what you're talking about. What's napalian or samolian? If you mean Nepali or Somali you should say so. Those are English words; learn them.
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    Re: Learn english first

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I certainly hope you are right. I don't know much about children. No doubt I was a child once but still....
    My brother is married to a Valencian. Their 3-year-old twins speak Spanish at home with Mum, English to Daddy and at playgroup. When they are with both parents they speak their own mixture of the two. Kids are amazing!
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    Re: Learn english first

    Quote Originally Posted by phil_osophy View Post
    yes. She is actually. There are others who speak spanish and others who speak napalian. But the others are able to communicate fairly well in english.



    where is Napalian spoken?

    I have never heard of this language.

    Maybe you could fill us in.

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    Re: Learn english first

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I do believe that English is the language of our nation and it annoys me that my neighbors, who are good folks, speak Spanish to their little kids.


    Also, being bi-lingual adds value to the employee because, well, so many people come here and don't bother learning English and we have accommodated this to the point of absurdity. Now in some jobs, I suppose it doesn't matter but I would not likely hire a non-english speaking employee. But all it takes is one good amnesty and Spanish will become our primary language. I suppose this is continent appropriate but I still dread the day.

    For English press 4.



    If it bothers you that much why don't you talk to them about it?

    I'm sure that they will be glad to discuss this with you.

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