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Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?


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Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

What think you?
 
My state has been reasonable.

Bars with little food can choose. Many restaurants share the building with the bar so people can eat in peace and drift over to the bar to smoke.

For once, we NV got it fair and balanced.
 
Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

What think you?

Yes, absolutely. Smoking is a legal activity and because of that a property owner should be allowed the choice to allow or disallow the practice on their property.
 
My state has been reasonable.

Bars with little food can choose. Many restaurants share the building with the bar so people can eat in peace and drift over to the bar to smoke.

For once, we NV got it fair and balanced.

Nevada. :rofl -- Those casinos aren't going to ban smoking. Gamblers are obsessive-compulsives. Take away their smoking they'll be spending all their time on the sidewalks. ;)
 
Nevada. :rofl -- Those casinos aren't going to ban smoking. Gamblers are obsessive-compulsives. Take away their smoking they'll be spending all their time on the sidewalks. ;)

Or switch to chew.
 
Places of adult social gatherings should have the right to choose whether they allow smoking. Once they've done that, they should have the right to decide if they want separated smoking or wherever smoking. Whatever they choose should be clearly posted outside somehow like menus are and occupancies, and on ad materials, so potential customers can vote with their patronage.
 
I think the restaurants should have the choice as suits their business. That said, I believe the states should regulate the HVAC systems required for those who choose to be smoking allowed establishments.
 
No, keep the law as it is now. Second hand smoke is not okay.
 
Nevada. :rofl -- Those casinos aren't going to ban smoking. Gamblers are obsessive-compulsives. Take away their smoking they'll be spending all their time on the sidewalks. ;)

We did exempt Casinos because the edginess of smoking is integral to their function. Twice, we had Casinos that were smoke-free and they quickly closed their doors. But inside the Casino, the restaurants are strictly NON-SMOKING.

Casinos are our only major industry. This isn't some kind of payoff thing. It was a thought through decision.

So many CA people have moved here and brought their attitudes with them. So, we found a sort-of win-win compromise.
 
No, keep the law as it is now. Second hand smoke is not okay.

The only place that would be an issue is for employees, customers have the free choice to leave or not show up in the first place knowing it's a smoking allowed establishment. For employees, there are great HVAC systems that have ben available for years that keep even smoking establishments largely smoke free.
 
No, keep the law as it is now. Second hand smoke is not okay.

You ain't gotta go into someone else's establishment. So there's no need to tread on their rights.
 
No, keep the law as it is now. Second hand smoke is not okay.

Exactly. Why should we have to choke down nasty cigarette smoke while we are eating, just because you don't want to be bothered with smoking outside?

Bars are different. You should be able to smoke in bars, pool halls, outdoor auditorium, etc, but not restaurants. It's not fair to the non smokers.
 
You ain't gotta go into someone else's establishment. So there's no need to tread on their rights.

It provides an unsafe work environment for their workers.

Smoking is ridiculously unhealthy and it is okay for the government to limit the harm.
 
You ain't gotta go into someone else's establishment. So there's no need to tread on their rights.

But aren't you treading on ours, by forcing us to inhale your smoke? Why can't you just stand outside? Or better yet, wait til your meal is over?
 
Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

Nope. Can't tell you how much we don't need your second hand smoke when we are eating. I hate restaurants that allow smoking with non-smokers and I usually stay clear of them. As for bars...perhaps it can be more lax but there's still that problem with second hand smoke. So I say no.
 
Exactly. Why should we have to choke down nasty cigarette smoke while we are eating, just because you don't want to be bothered with smoking outside?

Smokers are barging into your house and smoking while you're having dinner!
 
Nope. Can't tell you how much we don't need your second hand smoke when we are eating. I hate restaurants that allow smoking with non-smokers and I usually stay clear of them. As for bars...perhaps it can be more lax but there's still that problem with second hand smoke. So I say no.

Why do you have a right to other people's property and labor?
 
Smokers are barging into your house and smoking while you're having dinner!

Um - no? The question wasn't about people barging in my house. My house is a no smoking house.

The question was about bars and restaurants.
 
It provides an unsafe work environment for their workers.

Smoking is ridiculously unhealthy and it is okay for the government to limit the harm.

Smoking is legal. If you want to change it, go make it illegal. Till then it's the property owner's decision. You have no right to someone's property and labor, you can go somewhere else. Workers can work somewhere else, or as pointed out earlier, establishments can install proper ventilation and air circulation to clean the smoke up.
 
Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

What think you?

Is it MORE fair that non-smokers patrons and waiters and bartenders are forced to breath second hand smoke?
 
Um - no? The question wasn't about people barging in my house. My house is a no smoking house.

The question was about bars and restaurants.

Exactly!
 
What right do you have to others health and lungs?

I don't, I'm not forcing you into the establishments which allow smoking. You made that choice. Make a different choice if you don't like how that particular group exercises their freedom.
 
Why do you have a right to other people's property and labor?

It's a public health issue and the government has a right to interfere with public health. People who open a business must agree with the rules and regulations of that particular enterprise and not letting people smoke in a public place of business is one of those regulations. It is a good a fair regulation that helps with the public health and it should stay in effect.

If people want to smoke indoors, they have their private homes and cars, but don't do it in a place of business where you can put other people at risk.
 
People seem to really hate freedom. They seem to hate how people exercise their choices and feel they need to make others conform to their ideals so that their daily convenience isn't interrupted. It's kinda sick if you ask me.
 
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