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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I just don't understand big government nanny-staters. It's not that hard to not go into the establishment that allows smoking. I did it all the time, it was easy.
    Yep, even before the ordinances there were non-smoking restaurants (not many bars granted) all over the place around here. I ate in them all the time.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Disagree. I went into a Cracker Barrel about 5 years ago, in one of the Southern states, and they asked me if I wanted smoking or non-smoking. I almost swallowed my tongue. Even as recently as 5 years ago this happened, and the entire restaurant stunk. Could you imagine going into a Cracker Barrel and it smelling like stale cigarette smoke? This one did. We ate there because it was the only place around for a while, but it was not a very good experience.

    Can't expect people to do the right thing because most of them will not.
    Then don't go to Cracker Barrel. See how easy that is? If enough people don't go because of smoking, they will change their policy.

    And free isn't about "doing the right thing" as that's a floppy definition dependent upon who ever is defining the "right thing". It's about the choice.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Disagree. I went into a Cracker Barrel about 5 years ago, in one of the Southern states, and they asked me if I wanted smoking or non-smoking. I almost swallowed my tongue. Even as recently as 5 years ago this happened, and the entire restaurant stunk. Could you imagine going into a Cracker Barrel and it smelling like stale cigarette smoke? This one did. We ate there because it was the only place around for a while, but it was not a very good experience.

    Can't expect people to do the right thing because most of them will not.
    So why the heck didn't you just walk out? It's just silly and no matter how you try to spin it, eating at that particular restaurant wasn't necessary, no one was going to starve to death in the time it took you to find another restaurant or just go home and eat.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yep, even before the ordinances there were non-smoking restaurants (not many bars granted) all over the place around here. I ate in them all the time.
    Exactly, and everyone can have their desire. People who want to smoke can go to smoking establishments. People who don't can go to non-smoking establishments. Hell in CO there were many places that allowed dogs...actually that was pretty much every place so if you didn't like dogs you may be screwed there.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So why the heck didn't you just walk out?
    Right? It's just so obvious.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Exactly, and everyone can have their desire. People who want to smoke can go to smoking establishments. People who don't can go to non-smoking establishments. Hell in CO there were many places that allowed dogs...actually that was pretty much every place so if you didn't like dogs you may be screwed there.
    Yeah, and I'd be one of them. But then I'd never lobby to have all restaurants ban dogs.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, and I'd be one of them. But then I'd never lobby to have all restaurants ban dogs.
    Well to be fair, the animals were never in the cooking areas and many restaurants didn't allow them inside; but they could chill on the patio or something outside.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then don't go to Cracker Barrel. See how easy that is? If enough people don't go because of smoking, they will change their policy.

    And free isn't about "doing the right thing" as that's a floppy definition dependent upon who ever is defining the "right thing". It's about the choice.
    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So why the heck didn't you just walk out? It's just silly and no matter how you try to spin it, eating at that particular restaurant wasn't necessary, no one was going to starve to death in the time it took you to find another restaurant or just go home and eat.
    Had there been other choices, I would have walked out. I guarantee that if there was a restaurant where I live that allowed smoking, I'd never patronize the place. I'd choose somewhere else. But I was on a road trip, and as I mentioned, this was the only place around for a while.

    Also, I don't have to worry about restaurants changing their policy. The government has taken care of that for me.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Shouldn't this really be a decision that the owner or owners of an establishment be allowed to make for themselves?

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Had there been other choices, I would have walked out. I guarantee that if there was a restaurant where I live that allowed smoking, I'd never patronize the place. I'd choose somewhere else. But I was on a road trip, and as I mentioned, this was the only place around for a while.

    Also, I don't have to worry about restaurants changing their policy. The government has taken care of that for me.
    Once again, an excuse that doesn't fly. You could have easily headed down the road. Takes many days to starve believe me. And if you're good with the "government" taking care of things for you that you could easily do for yourself, well, there are deeper problems going on. You're way too old to need a nanny.

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