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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Seriously? So I need to start my own bank, my own grocery store, my own restaurants, my own clothing store, my own shoe store, my own medical clinic, my own hospital, my own basketball arena...

    seriously? that makes no sense.

    Banning smoking in public places doesn't take away anyone's property.

    Thank goodness we live in a time where more people agree with me than with you.
    Is my place of business your public place?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is my place of business your public place?
    People will define it as such to force action against your property.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Is my place of business your public place?
    In my opinion, and that is what I vote using, if you open it to the public then the government can regulate it.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    In my opinion, and that is what I vote using, if you open it to the public then the government can regulate it.
    So, you would prefer I make it private and exclude you even if you would want to do business?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    In my opinion, and that is what I vote using, if you open it to the public then the government can regulate it.
    Who pays the property taxes? Is it funded by taxpayers? Or is it an individual. If the latter, it's private.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Those of you saying businesses should choose whether or not to allow smokers are missing a lot here.

    For example - what about bowling alleys? Generally, there aren't a lot of them around, so I'm forced to go to the one near me. If it allowed smoking, I'd be stuck smelling it.

    Even restaurants - Maybe where you all live you have lots of choices, I don't. But before smoking was banned, all restaurants allowed it; they felt at a business disadvantage if they didn't allow it (my guess heavy drinkers - spenders - tend to also smoke, just a guess). So it's not like I could say "Mexican restaurant A allows smoking, Mexican restaurant B doesn't"- they all allowed it before. And in my small town, with even more limited choices, I'd be up the creek without a paddle, no choice of non-smoking restaurant.

    Those of you who say "if you don't want to work there find another job" - easier said than done.

    Having smoking banned in public places puts them all on an even footing. Businesses who wanted to ban it but didn't dare now don't have to worry about possibly being at a competitive disadvantage. Plus, the owners aren't stuck inhaling that crap.

    Those of you who smoke - great. Do it someplace where your smoke doesn't get in my face.

    I still remember as a kid going to grocery stores with my mom - and she'd be smoking IN THE GROCERY STORE. Ugh how gross, I think now... then it was normal.

    Things are getting better; fewer places with cigarette smoke is a good thing.
    I'm old enough to remember smoking EVERYWHERE> also.

    It's disgusting, I get sick just walking near exits where peple light up outside.
    But outside I'm exposed to other enviornmental toxins (air polution), so no one should ban outdoor smoking.

    I smoked for almost 20 years, I understand the addiction - but I would always ASK if I could lite up indoors.
    Now if anyone asks the answer is emphatically "no", as we know even 2nd hand smoke is deadly.

    So take it outside, sorry you're dieing for a smoke, but don't take me with you, on that trip.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

    I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

    I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

    What think you?
    I don't really have a strong opinion about this but I don't think banning smoking indoors is overly restrictive. I'm cool with banning indoor smoking of all kinds.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    So, you would prefer I make it private and exclude you even if you would want to do business?
    I wouldnt prefer it but I would be ok with it.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Who pays the property taxes? Is it funded by taxpayers? Or is it an individual. If the latter, it's private.
    It is private property that they chose to have a public business on. When something is open to the public then it can be regulated by the government.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    It is private property that they chose to have a public business on. When something is open to the public then it can be regulated by the government.
    So you presume ownership of others property and labor. They're there to serve you and you get to mandate what they can and cannot allow on their property even if it's legal activity.

    It's not necessarily "public" business. Just because people can walk through the door doesn't mean they must be served.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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