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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

    I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

    I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

    What think you?
    should have phrased it ..........ALL smoking restrictions should be lifted on private property.

    government has authority to put restrictions on..,, government property.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Can't stand smokers that smoke in public places where it's banned. Disgusting, keep your little addiction to yourself.

    Keep it as it is, hell, enforce it more if anything.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Slippery Slope?

    We already have policy's in place that limit freedoms. This is nothing new. Yes, government over steps it's bounds sometimes too... and that isn't good. Smoking has ZERO positive health benefits. Smoking also affects others negatively... including death. I don't mind infringing on people's "rights" on this one.
    So what positive health effects does bungee jumping have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    From my experience smoking sections in restaurants worked about as well as peeing sections in pools. If the restaurant was going to have a section that was physically divided from the other section, then I wouldnt mind but I have never seen that.
    I would say that unless there is a physical barrier that prevents any mixing, then it's all or nothing. The whole establishment is either smoking or non-smoking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Can't stand smokers that smoke in public places where it's banned.
    This has nothing to do with the OP. I'm willing to bet that you can't stand smokers that smoke in places where it's not banned.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

    I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

    I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

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    You're on the wrong side of history if you want smoking restrictions to be let up. Really since the 70's, the trend has been to tighten up more and more on smokers. I think in my lifetime, tobacco will be illegal altogether.

    Tobacco is a very dangerous substance and it makes no more sense to allow it than to allow heroin, for example. The only difference is that a substantial part of the population is not dependent on heroin.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You're on the wrong side of history if you want smoking restrictions to be let up. Really since the 70's, the trend has been to tighten up more and more on smokers. I think in my lifetime, tobacco will be illegal altogether.

    Tobacco is a very dangerous substance and it makes no more sense to allow it than to allow heroin, for example. The only difference is that a substantial part of the population is not dependent on heroin.
    Yes. Being on the side of freedom is always the wrong side, as demonstrated time and time again.

    I agree with the last part, though i think all drugs should be legal.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Yes. Being on the side of freedom is always the wrong side, as demonstrated time and time again.

    I agree with the last part, though i think all drugs should be legal.
    That's quite a simplistic way to look at it. Should I be free to buy anthrax and a rocket launcher?

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That's quite a simplistic way to look at it. Should I be free to buy anthrax and a rocket launcher?
    Is there a reason you shouldnt be free to?

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    I think most states have gotten it right. Smoking not allowed in enclosed bars/restaurant areas. I think some may have gone a bit too far (Hawaii bans many outdoor places to smoking). I don't see an issue with how they have it here. The bar/club I go to (InCahoots) here in San Diego has a large patio deck outside the bar for smokers. It has been that way for at least a decade (my first visit to this particular club was during 2002). You can hear the music just fine and even drink out there since the patio is only accessible via the bar.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Is there a reason you shouldnt be free to?
    I know the question wasnt directed at me but I am going to give my opinion. They are too dangerous. I realize you are Libertarian. You have your way of thinking and I have mine. I believe society has the right to enact laws for it's protection.

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