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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Most states have blanket bans against smoking in all bars and restaurants. No exceptions. As a result, you often see smokers huddled in small groups outside partaking in cigarettes.

    I am not, and have never been, a smoker but to me this in inherently unfair. IMO, the state should set aside special permits for a small percentage of bars and restaurants where smoking be allowed. To pick a number, I would say 10% to 15% of bars and restaurants should be allowed to have smoking inside. Have them post a large sign at each entrance notifying potentials customers, so everyone is fully informed and able to make their own choice. No one needs to go in and act surprised.

    I don't see the need to make them age-restricted to 18+ or 21+, but I could live with that compromise.

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    Is it MORE fair that non-smokers patrons and waiters and bartenders are forced to breath second hand smoke?
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Um - no? The question wasn't about people barging in my house. My house is a no smoking house.

    The question was about bars and restaurants.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    What right do you have to others health and lungs?
    I don't, I'm not forcing you into the establishments which allow smoking. You made that choice. Make a different choice if you don't like how that particular group exercises their freedom.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Why do you have a right to other people's property and labor?
    It's a public health issue and the government has a right to interfere with public health. People who open a business must agree with the rules and regulations of that particular enterprise and not letting people smoke in a public place of business is one of those regulations. It is a good a fair regulation that helps with the public health and it should stay in effect.

    If people want to smoke indoors, they have their private homes and cars, but don't do it in a place of business where you can put other people at risk.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    People seem to really hate freedom. They seem to hate how people exercise their choices and feel they need to make others conform to their ideals so that their daily convenience isn't interrupted. It's kinda sick if you ask me.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's a public health issue and the government has a right to interfere with public health. People who open a business must agree with the rules and regulations of that particular enterprise and not letting people smoke in a public place of business is one of those regulations. It is a good a fair regulation that helps with the public health and it should stay in effect.

    If people want to smoke indoors, they have their private homes and cars, but don't do it in a place of business where you can put other people at risk.
    It's not public health, it's private property. You make the choice. Just because you don't like how some people exercise their freedom doesn't mean you have the justification to force the change. Let your consumerism win out the day. Don't go to establishments that allow smoking. Done. But to prevent legal activities on private property because you can't be bothered to research or consume intelligently? That's not valid excuse for government force against the free exercise of rights.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't, I'm not forcing you into the establishments which allow smoking. You made that choice. Make a different choice if you don't like how that particular group exercises their freedom.
    I don't see how forcing others to breathe in smoke that could potentially hurt them health-wise constitutes any jurisdiction of freedom. The bartenders and the employees should not be subjected to an unsafe work environment. Secondly isn't it discriminatory to those who cannot be around smoke like that....wouldn't that be the same as hanging a sign on thew door...NO ASTHMA PATIENTS ALLOWED. Please. No offense but just take your lazy ass outside. I smoke cigars every so often, and a pipe, and take it outside where it belongs. No just knock off the fake freeoms nonsense.


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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    I think bars/resteraunts should apply for smoking liscenses just like they apply for drinking liscenses.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    I find it interesting that those vehemently against are so rigid that they are unwilling to allow even a small 10% of establishments that cater to people who are unlike themselves. This is exactly the kind of attitude that I find incredibly selfish.

    Also, restaurant and bar jobs are a dime a dozen. Employees can make the same choices as customers. Most smoking employees would quit their job so they could work at a place that allows smoking, thus creating opening for non-smoking employees at non-smoking restaurants. It would even out.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Constantine View Post
    I don't see how forcing others to breathe in smoke that could potentially hurt them health-wise constitutes any jurisdiction of freedom. The bartenders and the employees should not be subjected to an unsafe work environment. Secondly isn't it discriminatory to those who cannot be around smoke like that....wouldn't that be the same as hanging a sign on thew door...NO ASTHMA PATIENTS ALLOWED. Please. No offense but just take your lazy ass outside. I smoke cigars every so often, and a pipe, and take it outside where it belongs. No just knock off the fake freeoms nonsense.
    The bartenders and employees don't need to work there if they don't want. You do not have to consume there if you do not. Talk about lazy, you just want to go into some place, start coughing loudly and make everyone conform to your wishes instead of finding an establishment that would pander to your legal desires.

    I don't smoke at all cause it's gross, but I'm not going to force others to conform to my choices. That's how freedom works. You go crying to government to solve all your problems, you're going to be left with bigger problems than a smoky bar.
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