View Poll Results: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

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  • I think ALL smoking restrictions should be lifted.

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  • Yes, some bars/restaurants should be set aside to allow smoking.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    And if they want smokers in their restaurant? Then what? Screw them? My previous comment wasn't just about smoking and restaurants it was about other impositions as well. Tolerance is a TWO way street.
    No, if you read my posts you would see I said it should be up to the owner. I acknowledged that it could pose a problem for those restaurants that wished to remain nonsmoking though.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, if you read my posts you would see I said it should be up to the owner. I acknowledged that it could pose a problem for those restaurants that wished to remain nonsmoking though.
    Why would it be a problem?
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Why would it be a problem?
    From my earlier post.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The only problem is that the restaurants who don't allow smoking will lose a customer base, so more than likely there would be very few nonsmoking establishments.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    That's what they say. Part of me believes that they actually believe it to some extent.

    But... fact is they like the money, and have created and/or expanded government programs and bureaucracies... not all of which are smoking-related... that are funded by this tax money. If push comes to shove, they'd rather have their programs than healthy people not paying taxes.
    I believe what you stated is truly the case and the non-smoker doesn't seem to mind that the smoker be the one to provide the extra cash. Better them than him. There are some food dictators who are seriously considering a junk food tax. Do they actually think a tax on potato chips is going to stop people from buying them? NO. But it sure is a creative way in which to generate more money to redistribute in the name of our loving government caring so deeply for our health.

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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    I think it should be left up to the restaurant owner .
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Well a lot of states here in the U.S. are doing the same. And there are many who do not apply the same standards to smoking weed to cigarettes which makes not a damn bit of sense.
    Like here in California, where smoking violations normally carry a $500+ fine.

    Where as smoking marijuana in the exact same situation carries only a $50 fine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I'm goign to get addicted and eventually get lung cancer form marijuana as marijuana is not a public health risk. The current restrictions should apply but it does not need to be regulated past that and I would allow that in bars (coffee shops) and the advertising ban on tobacco would not apply to weed either.
    And here is where the real insanity starts. Obviously weed has some kind of magical smoke which does absolutely no harm at all. Where as tobacco smoke is custom designed to seek out and kill non-smokers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    If perfumes started sickening enough people then, yes, they should be banned too. Where I was raised, before the law, there were 0 resteraunts and bars that were smoke free.
    There are places that already ban them, and have for decades. Sausalito passed it's ban way back in 1991. Ironically it was illegal to wear perfume in bars there while it was still legal to smoke in them.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    So can the smokers.
    And you can go somewhere else. You are not entitled to another man's property or labor.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Had there been other choices, I would have walked out. I guarantee that if there was a restaurant where I live that allowed smoking, I'd never patronize the place. I'd choose somewhere else. But I was on a road trip, and as I mentioned, this was the only place around for a while.

    Also, I don't have to worry about restaurants changing their policy. The government has taken care of that for me.
    There ARE choices. You were not forced to eat at the Cracker Barrel. Again, you have to right to another's property or labor.
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    We tax it to stop hope using it, for example I believe New Zealand is slowly increasing cigarette taxes to 100% in an effort to eradicate smoking. I don't knwo about where you live but smoking is frowned upon by almost every group on both sides of the political spectrum, except maybe the older generation (65+). I don't care if you smoke weed, weed is fine cigarettes are not.
    Cigarette tax in America is already over 100%
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    Re: Should cigarette smoking be allowed in some bars & restaurants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Had there been other choices, I would have walked out. I guarantee that if there was a restaurant where I live that allowed smoking, I'd never patronize the place. I'd choose somewhere else. But I was on a road trip, and as I mentioned, this was the only place around for a while.

    Also, I don't have to worry about restaurants changing their policy. The government has taken care of that for me.
    Where exactly do you draw the line at what the government should take care of for you? I don't see how the government should have the power to tell a business owner what he/she should allow in their business. I agree wholeheartedly that people should have the choice to eat there or not, but they should not be forced to conform their establishment simply because you dont like it. This crap is part of a much larger picture where the government takes away peoples rights to choose. Like you said, they are making your choices for you.
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