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Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

Who is the most racist the left or the right?


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slight correction ... small government in part because they don't want the government telling them how to treat their "negroes" .. you're a Libertarian ... here's an example ... Rand Paul: White restaurant owners should have the right to deny service to black people simply because they're black ...

another correction: liberals, for more government, in part to protect minorities against the tyranny of the majority and instead of "collective welfare," how about caring about and for the less fortunate? ... spin it all you want, it comes out the same ...

and I'm way to the left of liberals my friend ... have a nice Thanksgiving ... if I'm a little grumpy it's because I haven't eaten yet, so my apologies ...

And caring about the less fortunate doesnt mean you get to rob one family to feed another. And dont compare it to robin hood because its nothing like that. Robin hood robbed the king. Liberals want to rob everybody.
 
And caring about the less fortunate doesnt mean you get to rob one family to feed another. And dont compare it to robin hood because its nothing like that. Robin hood robbed the king. Liberals want to rob everybody.

Is your basement stocked with enough ammunition for when "they" come to get you?
 
why we need gov't to stop people from discriminating against people just because they're black, in a wheel chair, gay, female, not attractive, fat, etc.

Discrimination doesnt infringe on anybodys liberty. You arent entitled to do business with whoever you want. If you dont want to do business with somebody for any reason, you shouldnt be forced to. If a black guy wanted to open up a club that was for black people only, id have no problem with that. The only entities that should be forced not to discriminate are governmental entities. The private sector should be private. Period.
 
Probably the right. They're more focused on the idea of "saving the culture".
 
Explain to me why you are entitled to another mans private business.
 
Would that be Rep. Lorreta [sic] Sanchez by any chance ?

Yes, it would.


>" An INS investigation in 1996 into alleged Motor Voter fraud in California's Forty-sixth Congressional District revealed that "4,023 illegal voters possibly cast ballots in the disputed election between Republican Robert Dornan and Democrat Loretta Sanchez." (p. 24)..."<

If I recall, she won that election by a margin of less than a thousand votes. The investigation into illegal voting was very far from complete, and if I recall, at least seven hundred votes were found to have been cast illegally, by non-citizens. It's reasonable to assume that had the investigation been carried through to completion, many more votes than that would have been found to be illegal as well. Perhaps not as many as the hypothetical four thousand, but surely more than enough to change the outcome of the election.

It is fairly safe to claim that Ms. Sanchez won this election because of illegal aliens voting, and that if those votes were prevented, or otherwise identified and disqualified, that Mr. Dornan would have won the election.
 
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Discrimination doesnt infringe on anybodys liberty. You arent entitled to do business with whoever you want. If you dont want to do business with somebody for any reason, you shouldnt be forced to. If a black guy wanted to open up a club that was for black people only, id have no problem with that. The only entities that should be forced not to discriminate are governmental entities. The private sector should be private. Period.

and blacks and whites are in an equal position to discriminate, are they? Phil ... I'm so glad that you're a dinosaur when it comes to discrimination, and that this generation and the last one are so much more enlightened on these issues than you are ...
 
and blacks and whites are in an equal position to discriminate, are they? Phil ... I'm so glad that you're a dinosaur when it comes to discrimination, and that this generation and the last one are so much more enlightened on these issues than you are ...

Im 20 so im part of this generation. I dont know what you mean by "equal position to discriminate".

So what makes one man entitled to another mans private business?
 
Im 20 so im part of this generation. I dont know what you mean by "equal position to discriminate".

So what makes one man entitled to another mans private business?

ah ... maybe you're too young to understand ... one day you may - that and some sociology courses won't hurt ...
 
ah ... maybe you're too young to understand ... one day you may - that and some sociology courses won't hurt ...

Still didnt answer the question. I feel you are intentionally avoiding it.

What makes you entitled to another persons private business?
 
Explain to me why you are entitled to another mans private business.

Are you stating that a restaurant should be able to discriminate?
 
Are you stating that a restaurant should be able to discriminate?

In the post you quoted i am asking a question. The question is, what makes you entitled to another persons private business?
 
Still didnt answer the question. I feel you are intentionally avoiding it.

What makes you entitled to another persons private business?

Divisiveness. In a society we make laws so that people are more free and able to have equal rights. Those that do not like it are in the minority. If a person does not like it they do not have to open a business.
 
In the post you quoted i am asking a question. The question is, what makes you entitled to another persons private business?

There is no such notion as a "private" business in a public society...
 
Divisiveness. In a society we make laws so that people are more free and able to have equal rights. Those that do not like it are in the minority. If a person does not like it they do not have to open a business.

In no way did i state people shouldnt have equal rights. Is doing business with a private party a right?
 
In no way did i state people shouldnt have equal rights. Is doing business with a private party a right?

Backwards. It is a private party doing business with the public/society. It is a right to be able to open a business into society, therefore the business has to play by societies rules.
 
Backwards. It is a private party doing business with the public/society. It is a right to be able to open a business into society, therefore the business has to play by societies rules.

It is a right to be able to open a business.

Is it your right to do business with somebody who doesnt want to do business with you?

And society's rules are non existent. I feel as long as a business doesnt harm anyone, they should be free to do business however they please. If a chinaman wants to open a restaraunt for chinese people only, he should be able to. If a black guy wants to open a club for black people only, he should be able to. If a handicapped guy wants to open a gym for handicapped only, he should be free to.
In a free market, we have the power to give businesses the death penalty if we dont like them.
 
Still didnt answer the question. I feel you are intentionally avoiding it.

What makes you entitled to another persons private business?

Phil, if you haven't gotten it by now, you won't, at least not until you open up your mind and read ... I share a lot with libertarians, but on this issue, I think a lot of libertarians are dead wrong ... not all, because I know libertarians who disagree with you ... the beauty of our system is that it protects minorities ... you want to eliminate that ...
 
"Who is the most racist the left or the right?"

The "left" is more racist conceptually: treating people, in their collectivist manner, as representatives of arbitrarily delineated groups, not as unique individuals, has obvious consequences.

But you can see right away that I am assuming here that my definition of "left" (collectivist) vs. "right" (individualist) is shared by the audience.

Just how often does this really happen?
 
Phil, if you haven't gotten it by now, you won't, at least not until you open up your mind and read ... I share a lot with libertarians, but on this issue, I think a lot of libertarians are dead wrong ... not all, because I know libertarians who disagree with you ... the beauty of our system is that it protects minorities ... you want to eliminate that ...

No i dont. I want equal protection and for private businesses to be able to run the way the owner pleases. You keep deflecting from my question because you know the irrationality of that position.

Again, what makes you entitled to another persons business?
 
It is a right to be able to open a business.

Is it your right to do business with somebody who doesnt want to do business with you?

And society's rules are non existent. I feel as long as a business doesnt harm anyone, they should be free to do business however they please. If a chinaman wants to open a restaraunt for chinese people only, he should be able to. If a black guy wants to open a club for black people only, he should be able to. If a handicapped guy wants to open a gym for handicapped only, he should be free to.
In a free market, we have the power to give businesses the death penalty if we dont like them.

What if a woman wanted to open a gym just for women? What if a person (gender immaterial) wanted to open a restaurant where only buxom women should be servers?
 
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