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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    This is utterly insane. That you actually believe that either party is the "party of hate" is quite telling.
    It seems your having a problem with comprehension. It's the Democrat Party who has become the party of hate.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    If you're going to dispute that claim, then it'd help to come up with evidence of widespread right-wing race baiting; and be able to support the claim that it is anywhere near as common as wrong-wing race-baiting.

    That latter is going to be a very difficult claim to support, given the current pervasiveness of wrong-wing race-baiting in support of the current President, in the form of claiming that anyone who opposes him or his policies must be doing so because he's black.

    You're going to have to face the fact, I think, that this form of race-baiting very rarely (if ever at all) comes from the right, and nearly always from those of you on the wrong. As much as those of you on the wrong like to paint those of us on the right as racists; this behavior of those on your side puts the lie to this claim, and clearly demonstrates which side is truly more racist.
    Rush Limbaugh Opens 2012 With More Race-Baiting Attacks | Research | Media Matters for America
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    That took me about 20 seconds to find. And no matter how many more I find, you'll still say "nope, left does it worse."
    Really? That's all you've got? I expected a better attempt than that.

    I did read the whole article, and all that it attributes to Limbaugh doesn't come anywhere near to adding up to one of the ubiquitous claims to be heard everywhere that “You only oppose Obama because he's black and you're a racist.” A mere mote in the eyes of us on the right, compared to a forest of beams in the eyes of those of you on the wrong.

    Face it: Your side owns race-baiting, just as it owns the ObamaCare scandal, and just as your side owns pathetic attempts to blame the other side for your own side's failures and shortcomings.
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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It seems your having a problem with comprehension. It's the Democrat Party who has become the party of hate.
    I comprehended just fine. You're just wrong.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Really? That's all you've got? I expected a better attempt than that.

    I did read the whole article, and all that it attributes to Limbaugh doesn't come anywhere near to adding up to one of the ubiquitous claims to be heard everywhere that “You only oppose Obama because he's black and you're a racist.” A mere mote in the eyes of us on the right, compared to a forest of beams in the eyes of those of you on the wrong.

    Face it: Your side owns race-baiting, just as it owns the ObamaCare scandal, and just as your side owns pathetic attempts to blame the other side for your own side's failures and shortcomings.
    Yes, those are clearly the only examples. I gave up after that.

    This is your entire argument: Argument from ignorance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa). This represents a type of false dichotomy in that it excludes a third option, which is that there is insufficient investigation and therefore insufficient information to prove the proposition satisfactorily to be either true or false. Nor does it allow the admission that the choices may in fact not be two (true or false), but may be as many as four, (1) true, (2) false, (3) unknown between true or false, and (4) being unknowable (among the first three).[1] In debates, appeals to ignorance are sometimes used to shift the burden of proof.
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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Hey Navy Pride

    What really saddens me is that the political party of my father and mother, the Democrat Party has become the party of hate.
    Always was. The Democratic part was the party of slavery. It was the party of the Ku Klux Klan.

    Somewhere along the way, it came to make a policy of trying to portray itself otherwise, and to project its racism against the opposing party; but that pretense is falling away in more recent years.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    This is utterly insane. That you actually believe that either party is the "party of hate" is quite telling.
    That you deny it, when it is so obvious, is very telling.
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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That you deny it, when it is so obvious, is very telling.
    Of course you think it's "obvious." Your entire schtick appears to be "Republicans/conservatives good, Democrats/liberals bad, 100% of the time."
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That you deny it, when it is so obvious, is very telling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Of course you think it's "obvious." Your entire schtick appears to be "Republicans/conservatives good, Democrats/liberals bad, 100% of the time."
    You'd think the last ten years would of shown us how wrong that mindset was...

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    From the Wikipedia topic and topic talk page. (Same link as you provided)

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    >"Article quality and sources[edit]This is pretty much an "article from ignorance" now, or perhaps "article by diversion" for it zig-zags between various (often less than logical) examples. And of course, it is mostly source free. John Locke who coined the term is mentioned in passing at the end, but the article is in need of serious clean up. A lot of it seems to have been written by user Agenzen who stopped editing 2 years ago. I seem to have left him a message 2 years ago with a pointer to negation as failure, now that I have looked, but that point is not discussed in the article except in see also. In any case, the best way would be to have a shorter, referenced and to the point definition with a couple of well known examples, instead of of the logical jambalaya that exists now.(talk) 10:53, 17 March 2013 (UTC)"<


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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    From the Wikipedia topic and topic talk page. (Same link as you provided)

    This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (October 2010)

    >"Article quality and sources[edit]This is pretty much an "article from ignorance" now, or perhaps "article by diversion" for it zig-zags between various (often less than logical) examples. And of course, it is mostly source free. John Locke who coined the term is mentioned in passing at the end, but the article is in need of serious clean up. A lot of it seems to have been written by user Agenzen who stopped editing 2 years ago. I seem to have left him a message 2 years ago with a pointer to negation as failure, now that I have looked, but that point is not discussed in the article except in see also. In any case, the best way would be to have a shorter, referenced and to the point definition with a couple of well known examples, instead of of the logical jambalaya that exists now.(talk) 10:53, 17 March 2013 (UTC)"<


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    Man, you're annoying.

    Logical Fallacies» Arguing from Ignorance
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    Last edited by Kobie; 11-20-13 at 01:28 AM.
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