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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) seems like the same def for about 40+ years
    2.) :
    Longer than that, it was the same definition back during the 1800's.

    I have to invest in an old dictionary from the 1800's.

    Not too many years ago I had a library pull the oldest dictionary they had in storage down in the basement. The oldest they had was published in 1932. I was curious why Nazis weren't right wing back then but left wing.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Longer than that, it was the same definition back during the 1800's.

    I have to invest in an old dictionary from the 1800's.

    Not too many years ago I had a library pull the oldest dictionary they had in storage down in the basement. The oldest they had was published in 1932. I was curious why Nazis weren't right wing back then but left wing.
    As i understand it, they started out left-wing, became authoritarian left-wing, and then jumped the divide to authoritarian right-wing.

    Although....

    IMO, if you're authoritarian enough, right or left loses all meaning and becomes nothing more than a foil you use to trick your chosen sheeple into supporting you.
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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So when presented with hard data, you simply choose to ignore it because it doesn't fit your preconceived notions.
    I don't consider polls or surveys as being what you would call "hard data."

    Studies usually could be considered to be "hard data."

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    1.)Longer than that, it was the same definition back during the 1800's.

    2.) I have to invest in an old dictionary from the 1800's.

    3.) Not too many years ago I had a library pull the oldest dictionary they had in storage down in the basement. The oldest they had was published in 1932. I was curious why Nazis weren't right wing back then but left wing.
    1.) i just picked that time frame to be somewhere around my age thats all

    2.) why? english changes and evolves, some changes, some dies just like society, movements, groups etc

    3.) see #2
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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As i understand it, they started out left-wing, became authoritarian left-wing, and then jumped the divide to authoritarian right-wing.

    Although....

    IMO, if you're authoritarian enough, right or left loses all meaning and becomes nothing more than a foil you use to trick your chosen sheeple into supporting you.
    Joseph Stalin always called Nazism a form of socialism.

    Hitler always called himself a socialist.

    But you also have to remember that right wing, left wing is a European political term which really can't be used in America. The only significant right wing political party in America were the Tories. All other American political parties in America, Whigs, Democrats, Republicans would be left wing in Europe.

    A conservative in Russia today would be closer to a communist but in America a communist would be the extreme opposite of a conservative in America.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) i just picked that time frame to be somewhere around my age thats all

    2.) why? english changes and evolves, some changes, some dies just like society, movements, groups etc

    3.) see #2
    Dictionaries are cool.

    If you're researching history having a dictionary used back during the time frame you're researching is a must to understand the meaning of words and how they were used back then.

    Just the spelling of words have changed over time. Punctuation has also changed over the past couple hundred of years in English.
    All you have to do is look at the Second Amendment.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    1.)Dictionaries are cool.

    2.)If you're researching history having a dictionary used back during the time frame you're researching is a must to understand the meaning of words and how they were used back then.

    3.) Just the spelling of words have changed over time. Punctuation has also changed over the past couple hundred of years in English.
    4.) All you have to do is look at the Second Amendment.
    1.) i like them myself

    2.) at times this is true

    3.) yep our country is so large it also changes in regions and sometimes even a regional dictionary is needed

    4.) you dont have to tell me, bottom right of my avatar, pro-gun
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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you are free to have that opinion
    Of course I am!

    I see you won't dispute it though. The facts speak to it.

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No... but a large portion are dependent. 46 million is a lot.

    According to the U.S. Census Bureau data released September 13, 2011, the nation's poverty rate rose to 15.1% (46.2 million) in 2010

    Welfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The best estimate of the cost of the 185 federal means tested welfare programs for 2010 for the federal government alone is nearly $700 billion, up a third since 2008, according to the Heritage Foundation. Counting state spending, total welfare spending for 2010 reached nearly $900 billion, up nearly one-fourth since 2008 (24.3%).

    America's Ever Expanding Welfare Empire - Forbes

    As you can see there is a lot of money in the "keeping people dependent business" and that means people jobs. There are a lot of people working in this industry.



    Both sides do that...


    46 million out of a population of over 313.9 million is certainly not half of the population... 15% is not even a large segment of the population.....they are just conservative talking points.....and it's getting old....

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    re: Who is the most racist the left or the right? [W:353]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Of course I am!

    I see you won't dispute it though. The facts speak to it.
    dispute what your opinion? why its meaningless lol
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