View Poll Results: Is Obama still a "socialist"?

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Also false, but thanks for playing.

    Obama is, at best, a milquetoast corporatist and, as all politicians here are, a doubletalker (at best). We know this.

    One of the key elements of Fascism is Nationalism. I always see Obama criticized from the right for hating America. Can't have it both ways.

    Really, so essentially what you're saying and you are saying this with your nonchalant vapidity is that the policies which he has pushed which involve aiding in the consolidation of monied interests combined with the concentration of power in the political class, the dividing of labor(pitting union vs non union), the targeting of and pandering to the lower levels of the managerial class, the authoritarian style of governance, arbitrarily deciding which laws to enforce, making up new powers as he goes along, and the direct tying of corporate benefited and provided social entitlements, that, that isn't fascism, has to have the "OK USA" bumper sticker to go along with it, in order for it to be fascism...

    Evolution is a new concept, eh? Because, you know, I know, socialism, communism, anarchism, capitalism -- those, those are all static, nope no change in their dynamics...

    Good lord....

    Oh, and better to be a playa than to be played...

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    A fascist is a rightist/Francoist/GOP--TEAturd---Has BHO changed to the GOP of NO yet?!?!?!

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Soo the Dow hit a record high of 16,000 under this terrible "anti business, socialist" Obama.. Is he still a "socialist"?
    While I think the "socialist" label is moronic and political trolling, what would the dow have to do with it's validity?

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Also false, but thanks for playing.

    Obama is, at best, a milquetoast corporatist and, as all politicians here are, a doubletalker (at best). We know this.
    Definitely a DC establishment type, more than anything

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Soo the Dow hit a record high of 16,000 under this terrible "anti business, socialist" Obama.. Is he still a "socialist"?
    Obama .. a socialist



    Question for people dumb enough to believe that bull**** .. Is Wall Street in the habit of pouring ****loads of money on a socialist?

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Statist and conservative are not mutually exclusive.
    true enough in some cases



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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Soo the Dow hit a record high of 16,000 under this terrible "anti business, socialist" Obama.. Is he still a "socialist"?
    Do you know how the valuation of stocks works? As long as QE is in effect the market will rise because the dollar is being debased; thereby causing the asset price to go up. If you own an asset that is worth 100 dollars in a world that has 1000 dollars in it, You have something that is worth 10% of all assets combined. How much would your asset be worth in a world that has 2000 dollars in it?
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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    Obama .. a socialist



    Question for people dumb enough to believe that bull**** .. Is Wall Street in the habit of pouring ****loads of money on a socialist?
    Absolutely. The goal of the socialist is to control the flow of capital and the means of production, this can be accomplished by force or by coercion. The crony capitalism we have is a system of favors and coercion. In effect socialism in heavily regulated sectors.
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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Soo the Dow hit a record high of 16,000 under this terrible "anti business, socialist" Obama.. Is he still a "socialist"?
    Does he still beleive in redistribution of wealth and govt control of the economy?

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Socialist? No
    Populist? Yes
    Incompetent? Yes
    "The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing compared to the misery of not being exploited at all" - Joan Robinson
    "The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries" - Winston Churchill

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