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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm sorry, but are you using the DOW as your litmus test for a president being socialist?

    Sweet mother of God, I hope you're kidding. I mean, he's not a socialist, but it's really taking some restraint on my part not to do some stuff.
    Besides the Stock market ALWAYS does better under Democratic Presidents. Obama is no different.

    •Personal disposable income has grown nearly 6 times more under Democratic presidents
    •Gross Domestic Product (GDP) has grown 7 times more under Democratic presidents
    •Corporate profits have grown over 16% more per year under Democratic presidents (they actually declined under Republicans by an average of 4.53%/year)
    •Average annual compound return on the stock market has been 18 times greater under Democratic presidents (If you invested $100k for 40 years of Republican administrations you had $126k at the end, if you invested $100k for 40 years of Democrat administrations you had $3.9M at the end)
    •Republican presidents added 2.5 times more to the national debt than Democratic presidents
    •The two times the economy steered into the ditch (Great Depression and Great Recession) were during Republican, laissez faire administrations
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/adamhart...vote-democrat/

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I see ... you just defend him on websites.
    On the other hand, trying to convince people he's not a Socialist is what he's been doing sooooo...

    Anyway ... if you vote for the Socialist Party candidates I encourage you to keep doing that.
    If you have an agenda, you should just say that.

    It appears that you have a problem distinguishing from "defending Obama" and just telling the truth. There has been no bigger critic of Obama than I have been .. but unlike the right, I don't have to make **** up to criticize him.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    I've never called you or anyone else here 'dumb.'

    Obama is not a socialist by any real definition of the word. He has never been anything close to a socialist.

    He's prosecuted FEWER financial crimest than EITHER Reagan or Bush .. either Bush.

    Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Reagan or Either Bush
    Obama Prosecuting Fewer Financial Crimes Than Under Either Bush Presidency Washington's Blog

    What 'socialist?'

    Obama conducts the Bush foreign policy on steroids.

    What 'socialist'?

    I haven't called anyone dumb .. but I ask I obvious questions that defy the logic of what i see as just political meme.
    rhose who make this claim don't have a clue of what they're talking about.
    If you don't already know the definition of socialism
    How you failed find sane points of debate
    Respectfully, that's ridiculous.
    The notion that Obama is somehow a socialist is just silly.
    and many different variations of 'no hes not" and "if you disagree your dumb'

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackAsCoal View Post
    If you have an agenda, you should just say that
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    1) Yes, you should.

    I don't have to make **** up to criticize him
    2) NObody has to do that.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    you type with your toes or voice recognition software?
    Minus the spelling mistakes is that all you are going to respond with?


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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Minus the spelling mistakes is that all you are going to respond with?
    just for discloser purposes, I type by blowing on a vacuum tube and wear an adult diaper. But the later is more a fetish thing

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He had to play ball with private companies to get Communist agenda embedded. Look how he put the screws to the insurance compaies.
    I weep for them.

    "....Last week the New York Times reported that the health insurance industry is enjoying record earnings while millions of Americans get less medical care. Wall Street investors are delighted with the industry's profits, and to health insurance executives, that's all that counts. Insurance CEOs want investors to buy their stock and keep share prices marching higher, and that's exactly what has happened. To achieve excessive profits, insurers are happy to gouge consumers and small businesses, do little to rein in medical costs and spend billions of our premium dollars on lobbying, secret political activities, bloated executive pay and stock buybacks.

    AHIP's focus on profit margins is misleading and designed to protect their massive income by shifting attention away from their return on equity a key measure of profits as a percentage of the amount invested. That return is a phenomenal 16.1% as of today. By that measure, health insurers are ranked fourth highest of the 16 industries in the health care sector. They also deliver a higher return for investors than cellphone companies, beer companies, mortgage companies, life insurance companies, TV broadcasters, drug store companies or grocery stores.

    AHIP likes to talk about how insurance profits are a small share of national health spending less then one penny of every dollar spent on health care in the U.S. but that is an absurd, deceptive and self-serving statistic. Yet even their own chart of this data shows that the share of the health care economy sucked up by health insurance profits has more than tripled over the past decade..."
    links to claims provided on the source NOW! Blog The Truth About Health Insurance Company Profits: They’re Excessive

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    and many different variations of 'no hes not" and "if you disagree your dumb'
    Not a single mention of the word 'dumb' by me .. not a single attack on a poster.

    You seem to believe that I should simply agree with mindless RW pablum without speaking to how ridiculous and silly their comments are.

    WRONG

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    .
    1) Yes, you should.


    2) NObody has to do that.
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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Minus the spelling mistakes is that all you are going to respond with?
    If spelling mistakes make it so that the sentence has no meaning, what response do you expect? I have no idea what you were trying to say.

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