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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why would you equate the Dow to Obama not being a Socialist?
    I thought socialists were anti-wall street, and not pro business.....



    I think he is still very much a socialist, just not a happy one.
    Not happy? He is using this as proof of "economic recovery"....


    Does he still desire government control of the economy and the government to be used to shape social behavior? I think so.


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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Is there a particular reason you used a graph that stops in 2008? Something happen after that that you don't want us to know about?
    Its the graph i have on hand.


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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I wouldnt call him a fascist. I would say he is a corporatist-capitalist (which corporatism is the economic system of fascism) but i would not call him a fascist.
    I would call him fascist not just because of his corporate capitalism (which Mussolini said is the hallmark of fascism) but also for his continued actions against the freedom and liberty of the People in favor of the power and scope of State.

    The Republocrats in general have become a fascist party.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Ok. If I'm belligerant about it, it's communism. If I'm nice about it, it's socialism. How's that?
    It's still not correct.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I would call him fascist not just because of his corporate capitalism (which Mussolini said is the hallmark of fascism) but also for his continued actions against the freedom and liberty of the People in favor of the power and scope of State.

    The Republocrats in general have become a fascist party.
    I think calling him a fascist is a bit draconian.


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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I think calling him a fascist is a bit draconian.
    Republocrat rule in general is rather draconian. But Republocrat action is towards bigger government, infinity war, massive spying and data collection, etc.

    If we're going to be honest then we need to admit this is exactly fascism. Everything for then state at the cost of the People. Propaganda through state defined patriotism and massive Big Brother government.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Youre free to try and convince us. If you have nothing less but ad hominems, then feel free leave.
    I have no interest in convincing 'us' of anything. :0) NONE whatsoever.

    If you don't already know the definition of socialism, it's just pointless conversation .. and I don't mind a bit of pointless conversation while I work.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Oh please. That's just stupid. That's not socialism.

    My town had a vote on a parcel tax to pay for fire engines; it passed, but not by 100%. But we all have to pay the tax. That's not socialism; that's democracy.


    "Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[2] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[3] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[4]"
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    See the bolded parts of your definition.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I thought socialists were anti-wall street, and not pro business.....




    Not happy? He is using this as proof of "economic recovery"....



    Why would a socialist be anti-business? Somebody has to be around to do favors for them...

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's still not correct.
    Yes, it is.

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