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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
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    nd again, read the thread. Its been answered several times. If you disagree with the answers, then post a rebuttal. Thats how debate works
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    Read what I have already posted, I don't have time to waste on you.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Read what I have already posted, I don't have time to waste on you.
    So far youve posted "when was obama ever a socialist?" and "thats just ,like, your opinion...man" and "the same people havent been able to win and election" and "i have no time for you". WHich post exactly were you referring to that is a rebuttal of the points made by other people in this thread?

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    So? that's not socialism
    If I come to you and say "I'm putting in a water well. Do you want to go in with me on it?", that's not socialism. If I come to you and say "I'm putting in a water well and you are paying for half", that IS socialism.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Soo the Dow hit a record high of 16,000 under this terrible "anti business, socialist" Obama.. Is he still a "socialist"?
    He was never a socialist, he's a fascist.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    If I come to you and say "I'm putting in a water well. Do you want to go in with me on it?", that's not socialism. If I come to you and say "I'm putting in a water well and you are paying for half", that IS socialism.
    Oh please. That's just stupid. That's not socialism.

    My town had a vote on a parcel tax to pay for fire engines; it passed, but not by 100%. But we all have to pay the tax. That's not socialism; that's democracy.


    "Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[2] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[3] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[4]"
    Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    If I come to you and say "I'm putting in a water well. Do you want to go in with me on it?", that's not socialism. If I come to you and say "I'm putting in a water well and you are paying for half", that IS socialism.
    That's not necessarirly socialism.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Oh please. That's just stupid. That's not socialism.

    My town had a vote on a parcel tax to pay for fire engines; it passed, but not by 100%. But we all have to pay the tax. That's not socialism; that's democracy.


    "Socialism is an economic system characterised by social ownership of the means of production and co-operative management of the economy.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to cooperative enterprises, common ownership, state ownership, citizen ownership of equity, or any combination of these.[2] There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them.[3] They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets or planning, how management is to be organised within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[4]"
    Socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Democracy is not exclusive of socialism.

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's not necessarirly socialism.
    Ok. If I'm belligerant about it, it's communism. If I'm nice about it, it's socialism. How's that?

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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    He was never a socialist, he's a fascist.
    I wouldnt call him a fascist. I would say he is a corporatist-capitalist (which corporatism is the economic system of fascism) but i would not call him a fascist.


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    Re: Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    When was Obama ever actually a Socialist (Except in some far right peoples minds.)?
    When he took office. Next thing you know Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, and those "freedom fighters" in the Tea Party start throwing it out like its amazing.


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