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Is Obama Still a "Socialist"?

Is Obama still a "socialist"?

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polgara said:
Good morning, bubba! :2wave:

I'm having :coffeepap: and contemplating whether or not to take the dog for a walk. It's lightly snowing, temperature is 19 degrees, and it's a bit windy. He does not want to go, since the snow is up to his belly. (Life is tough for a 5-pound Chihuahua in the winter) I don't want to go out, either... so maybe I'll just let him go out in the backyard for a few minutes to do his business................. Okay, I'm back.

Did you see the magnanimous gesture BHO just made? It seems he's giving us one additional week to get signed up for Obamacare... instead of December 15, we now have until December 23. WooHoo! The system is still not working, so this ought to be interesting! Bubba, if I wasn't living it, I wouldn't believe it! They had years to get this working, and people are only being given one lousy extra week to comply? :bs:
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Ya know ... if this was anyone else doing it ... he'd be laughed off the world stage with gales of "oh stop, my sides hurt" laughter.
 
bubbabgone said:
Ya know ... if this was anyone else doing it ... he'd be laughed off the world stage with gales of "oh stop, my sides hurt" laughter.
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Those that hate us...probably most of the world...figure Americans are getting what we deserve, and they are laughing! I can't blame them--after all, we did elect these people to govern us, so there is no one to blame but ourselves. Not easy to admit it, but it's true! :wow:
 
bubbabgone said:
Oh yes ... normally candidates need to withstand scrutiny ... but if you think the media scrutinized Obama rather than defended his candidacy then we've been living in alternate worlds.
Obamacare was designed as a step toward Single Payer, not to halt it. What you claimed is just plain silly. Remember ...
“I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health-care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. . . . Everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. “ Barack Obama – 2003
So I didn't say Obamacare WAS Single Payer ... it was meant as a kind of stalking horse for Single Payer ... you should be pleased. Unless you're old enough to have to worry about IPAB.
As for the CIA stuff, I don't usually bother asking but ... reliable links please ... no Wayne Madsen. You should make better choices regarding who to believe.

But one thing does strike me as really really curious ... on the one hand you remark about the scrutiny a POTUS candidate must surely have to endure ... while on the other hand claiming Obama and his entire family are/were CIA operatives ... something totally missed during 2 election campaigns and all the years between. Good grief, BAC. Get a grip on reality.
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:0) .. just amazing.

Who said anything about the MEDIA scrutinizing Obama??? :0) That's radio-speak.

How about the CIA, FBI, NATO, and every other investigative organization that has a stake in who is the POTUS? Are you of the opinion that they did not look deeply into Obama's ties? Are you of the opinion that you have a better intelliganece gathering organization than the FBI and the CIA? Do you think you know more about Obama than they do? :0)

RW thought is hilarious. :0)

Obamacare ,, a step towards single-payer??? :0)

If Obama had stood behind single-payer, it would be the law of the land today. HR 676 / S 703 was on the table when Obama opted for a republican plan.

:0) Good grief is right.
 
BlackAsCoal said:
:0) .. just amazing.

Who said anything about the MEDIA scrutinizing Obama??? :0) That's radio-speak.

How about the CIA, FBI, NATO, and every other investigative organization that has a stake in who is the POTUS? Are you of the opinion that they did not look deeply into Obama's ties? Are you of the opinion that you have a better intelliganece gathering organization than the FBI and the CIA? Do you think you know more about Obama than they do? :0)

RW thought is hilarious. :0)

Obamacare ,, a step towards single-payer??? :0)

If Obama had stood behind single-payer, it would be the law of the land today.
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HR 676 / S 703 was on the table when Obama opted for a republican plan.

:0) Good grief is right.
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No Obama-as-CIA-spook link, huh? I'm not surprised.
If Obama did what you suggested he not only wouldn't get Single Payer but he likely wouldn't be sitting in the Oval Office today.
He said he wanted it ... do you believe him or don't you?
I have to ask ... who else is trying to run your line that Obama's not a Leftist?
It's hard to believe but you actually seem to be serious.
You've got to be the only one except for maybe a few who still hang on to the strategy to keep insisting Obama's not a hard core Leftist ideologue ... but that game has played itself out.
 
bubbabgone said:
No Obama-as-CIA-spook link, huh? I'm not surprised.
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I'm not here to hold your hand. If you don't believe it and would rather believe that some terrorist somehow became the POTUS .. feel free to believe that.

If Obama did what you suggested he not only wouldn't get Single Payer but he likely wouldn't be sitting in the Oval Office today.
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Beyond ridiculous.

He said he wanted it ... do you believe him or don't you?
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NO .. HELL NO, I do not believe him. He said it to get elected.



I have to ask ... who else is trying to run your line that Obama's not a Leftist?
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Anyone who has a brain knows that clearly.

Leftists are NOT warmongers and they don't put Wall Street and Banking before the interests of the people.

It's hard to believe but you actually seem to be serious.
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I'm always serious .. even when I'm not.

You've got to be the only one except for maybe a few who still hang on to the strategy to keep insisting Obama's not a hard core Leftist ideologue ... but that game has played itself out.
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You really need to get out more.

Obama .. TWICE elected .. and no one gives a damn about the 'leftist' nonsense that you believe is so important.

.. :0) and BTW ..

Obama’s Ties to CIA May Explain His Totalitarian Views | Veterans Today

Believe whatever floats your boat.
 
BlackAsCoal said:
I'm not here to hold your hand. If you don't believe it and would rather believe that some terrorist somehow became the POTUS .. feel free to believe that.



Beyond ridiculous.



NO .. HELL NO, I do not believe him. He said it to get elected.
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Anyone who has a brain knows that clearly.

Leftists are NOT warmongers and they don't put Wall Street and Banking before the interests of the people.



I'm always serious .. even when I'm not.



You really need to get out more.

Obama .. TWICE elected .. and no one gives a damn about the 'leftist' nonsense that you believe is so important.

.. :0) and BTW ..

obamas-ties-to-cia-may-explain-his-totalitarian-views
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/]Obama’s Ties to CIA May Explain His Totalitarian Views | Veterans Today

Believe whatever floats your boat.[/QUOTE]

Finally ... an agreement. Damn right. He's a liar. Leftists are liars. They still have to be even now. I was hoping these last few days would end up to be productive. Glad our time has not been wasted.
Another point of agreement ... Obama behaves like a totalitarian ... Socialist and Communists do that you know. I'm not surprised but I'm pleased that neither are you.
This has turned out to be a wonderful culmination of this series of comments.
 
bubbabgone said:
Finally ... an agreement. Damn right. He's a liar. Leftists are liars. They still have to be even now. I was hoping these last few days would end up to be productive. Glad our time has not been wasted.
Another point of agreement ... Obama behaves like a totalitarian ... Socialist and Communists do that you know. I'm not surprised but I'm pleased that neither are you.
This has turned out to be a wonderful culmination of this series of comments.
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You seem more intent of 'leftists' than you are the truth. Truth is, you don't seem to know what socialism is.

Socialism = people first .. which is why healthcare and education in socialist countries are free for its citizens .. cradle to grave.

Good conversation indeed.
 
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