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Thread: Reasons For Impeachment

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Just curious what did GWB do to warrant impeachment?
    Lying to the American People. Misleading the public to start two wars. Thousands dead based on lies and deceit. Need more?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Just a reality check, Obama's record is heavily tilted towards following through on his word. If you wanted a President who would never lie to you you should have re-elected Carter.

    PolitiFact | The Obameter: Tracking Obama&#39;s Campaign Promises

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    "Obamacare delenda est"

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Isn't bait and switch classified as a crime now? I think it is.



    "n. a dishonest sales practice in which a business advertises a bargain price for an item in order to draw customers into the store and then tells the prospective buyer that the advertised item is of poor quality or no longer available and attempts to switch the customer to a more expensive product. Electronic items such as stereos, televisions, or telephones are favorites, but there are also loan interest rates which turn out to be only for short term or low maximums, and then the switch is to a more expensive loan. In most states this practice is a crime and can also be the basis for a personal lawsuit if damages can be proved. The business using "bait and switch" is an apt target for a class action since there are many customers but each transaction scarcely warrants the costs of a separate suit."

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    When he commits a crime, I'll support his impeachment.

    What Obama does is criminal, but he hasn't committed a crime.
    Well then, let's consider these:

    He has clearly communicated his intent to eviscerate the second amendment rights of American citizens by pursuing executive orders to curtail the right to keep and bear arms without congressional authorization and in violation of the second amendment.
    Below, Congressman Stockman has pledged to move for impeachment against Obama. I am standing up against Obama right beside him, will you?
    “The President’s actions are an existential threat to this nation,” reads a statement by Rep. Steve Stockman. “The right of the people to keep and bear arms is what has kept this nation free and secure for over 200 years. The very purpose of the Second Amendment is to stop the government from disallowing people the means to defend themselves against tyranny. Any proposal to abuse executive power and infringe upon gun rights must be repelled with the stiffest legislative force possible.”

    - He has aided America’s enemies, violating his oath, by sending funds to insurgents in Syria who are being commanded by Al-Qaeda terrorists.

    - He has violated federal law by overseeing a cover-up surrounding Operation Fast and Furious, the transfer of guns to Mexican drug cartels direct from the federal government.

    - He has lied to the American people by overseeing a cover-up of the Benghazi attack which directly led to the deaths of four American citizens. The cover-up has been called “Obama’s Watergate,” yet four months after the incident, no one in the administration has been held accountable.

    - He has brazenly undermined the power of Congress by insisting his authority came from the United Nations Security Council prior to the attack on Libya and that Congressional approval was not necessary. “I don’t even have to get to the Constitutional question,” said Obama. This is an act that “constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under article II, section 4 of the Constitution,” according to Congressman Walter Jones.

    - He has ignored Congressional rejection of the cybersecurity bill and instead indicated he will pursue an unconstitutional executive order.

    - He has signed into law the National Defense Authorization Act which includes provisions that permit the abduction and military detention without trial of U.S. citizens, violating Habeas Corpus. Despite Obama claiming he would not use the provisions to incarcerate U.S. citizens, it was his administration that specifically demanded these powers be included in the final NDAA bill.

    - He has enacted universal health care mandates that force Americans to buy health insurance, a clear violation of the Constitution in exceeding congressional power to regulate interstate commerce. Obama has also handed outpreferential waivers to corporations friendly to his administration.

    - He has declared war on America’s coal industry by promising to bankrupt any company that attempts to build a new coal plant while using unconstitutional EPA regulations to strangle competition, ensuring Americans see their energy costs rise year after year.

    - He has violated the Constitution’s Takings and Due Process Clauses when he bullied the secured creditors of automaker Chrysler into accepting 30 cents on the dollar while politically connected labor unions and preferential others received better deals.

    - He has violated Article II of the Constitution by using signing statements as part of his executive usurpation of power.

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because something went wrong in a rollout someone should be impeached?
    Damn right, the minute people that had great insurance started losing policies and coverage. That MF should be thrown in jail for the rest of his natural life along with Pelosi and Reid.

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Damn right, the minute people that had great insurance started losing policies and coverage. That MF should be thrown in jail for the rest of his natural life along with Pelosi and Reid.
    Because of a bill made 3 million people loose their ****ty insurance which is essentially what the bill is supposed to do?


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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because of a bill made 3 million people loose their ****ty insurance which is essentially what the bill is supposed to do?
    You must have some real insight on the insurance industry to summarily dismiss 3 million policies as "s**tty".

    Do you do part-time actuarial work? I was just wondering what formulae you used to come to this conclusion.

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You must have some real insight on the insurance industry to summarily dismiss 3 million policies as "s**tty".

    Do you do part-time actuarial work? I was just wondering what formulae you used to come to this conclusion.
    They did not meet the ACA's standard. Most of them were paid individually, not by the company, so most of them were not very good policies.


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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Now we've all heard that there were 3 presidents who were put up for impeachment:
    1. Andrew Johnson
    2. Bill Clinton
    3. Richard Nixon (as a note, Nixon was never actually impeached, he just quit before he could be tried)

    Now Johnson just tested the limitations of a law (the Tenure of Office act of 1867). He did this by trying to fire the Secretary of War, and that led to his trial. The house impeached him, but the senate didn't, so he stayed.

    Bill Clinton admitted to having an affair after months of lying to people about it. Once again House impeached him, but the senate cleared him.

    So my question is, should the disaster with obamacare, between the lying, the people loosing their healthcare, ect...,be enough to impeach Obama?
    You're joking, right? I'm not even certain a try to impeach could get out of the House Judiciary Committee which is controlled by republicans. Whether or not this legislation is a disaster or not remains to be seen, but it was passed by congress and signed into law legally and constitutionally.

    Remember, politics is the art of the possible. Impeachment at this time seems near impossible or at least is at long odds. Conviction is not going to happen. You need 2/3rd of the senate voting for impeachment and I would say you would get very close to 2/3rd voting no. I think you ought to learn from history, outside of the die hard Republicans, most every other American thought the Republican Party was crazy for tryiing to impeach Bill Clinton.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Reasons For Impeachment

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They did not meet the ACA's standard. Most of them were paid individually, not by the company, so most of them were not very good policies.
    Not meeting the ACA's standard makes them "s**tty". Hilarious. That's like getting a 97% on your final and getting a B because the professor cuts off A at 98%.

    Sorry you can't keep your "s**tty" 97%. We demand As around here.

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