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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Rastafarians are not allowed their sacrament. I voted no.
    But smoking pot is not legal. It is not the religion. I had a very good friend that was a Rastifarian.
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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    How about Christian religious leaders who preach hate toward others and other religions? Quran burners and Gay bashers? I understand some can warp the Quran to say hateful things but then again our Bible has been used to justify everything from genocide to simple lynchings.

    Perhaps the better phrasing would be those who use the guise of religion to promote hate, intolerance, and violence should lose their tax free status.
    Here, Violent and Intolerant Qur’an Verses Conservative Colloquium find me such in the Bible. You wish to blame a branch of religion based upon actions and interpretations of some of it's "leaders", with Islam, it is not interpretation, but clearly spelled out in their "Holy" Book.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Here, Violent and Intolerant Qur’an Verses Conservative Colloquium find me such in the Bible. You wish to blame a branch of religion based upon actions and interpretations of some of it's "leaders", with Islam, it is not interpretation, but clearly spelled out in their "Holy" Book.
    The psychopathic God of the Christians.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Simple yes or no, if not could you please enlighten a non-US citizen on the reasons why some followers of religions in the US should not have the same religious freedoms as others.

    Oh - and if I got the wrong Amendment, I mean the one about freedom of religious expression.
    ya its the right amendment

    So im thinking sometimes. America is predominately christian so it would seem like we would sometimes have conflicts

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Misanthrope View Post
    Before we get to far down that line. Move it to a thread of it's own if you really want to discuss it. Otherwise, compare to the two, they simply are not of the same nature.

    Perhaps you should actually read your post. Then reduce it down to intolerance that people are called upon to do unto other people. God sending sinners to hell is intolerant of sinners, but God reserves judgment and use of damnation for himself, and admonishes against man using them against man.

    Also, if you are arguing Christians, you might want to leave out most of the Old Testament. Many things in it that were directed from God to the Jews were Changed by Jesus and Christians do not follow or adhere to all of them.
    Last edited by DVSentinel; 11-17-13 at 09:53 PM.
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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    ARe you an aborigine, or something?
    Why? Are aborigines personae non gratae here?

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Please enlighten this USofA citizen- which religions don't get the same 'freedoms'???

    A religion devoted to human sacrifice doesn't get a great deal of religious freedom in this country....
    Yes this is the fly in the ointment isn't it. I'll stand by the thought that the once upon a time religions were considered cults in the phrasing of the first amendment. If that isn't the case than one must conclude that the free exercise clause must also conform with the rule of law. ie no human sacrifice, and so on.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Before we get to far down that line. Move it to a thread of it's own if you really want to discuss it. Otherwise, compare to the two, they simply are not of the same nature.

    Perhaps you should actually read your post. Then reduce it down to intolerance that people are called upon to do unto other people. God sending sinners to hell is intolerant of sinners, but God reserves judgment and use of damnation for himself, and admonishes against man using them against man.

    Also, if you are arguing Christians, you might want to leave out most of the Old Testament. Many things in it that were directed from God to the Jews were Changed by Jesus and Christians do not follow or adhere to all of them.
    Also the bible say sour sins have been forgiven so really the only crime that can get us damned is not trusting Christ as our lord and savior. just saying

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Before we get to far down that line. Move it to a thread of it's own if you really want to discuss it. Otherwise, compare to the two, they simply are not of the same nature.

    Perhaps you should actually read your post. Then reduce it down to intolerance that people are called upon to do unto other people. God sending sinners to hell is intolerant of sinners, but God reserves judgment and use of damnation for himself, and admonishes against man using them against man.

    Also, if you are arguing Christians, you might want to leave out most of the Old Testament. Many things in it that were directed from God to the Jews were Changed by Jesus and Christians do not follow or adhere to all of them.
    Also, if you are arguing Christians, you might want to leave out most of the Old Testament
    I note you said "most of the Old Testament," not all of it. If the NT contains all "decent" but frightened people need for "salvation," why do Christians bother with some of the OT? And do you wanna state what parts of the OT are valid? I can understand if you demure, I mean you don't wanna risk incurring the wrath of some of the 30,000 odd brands of Christianity that infest the U.S, do you!?
    Last edited by The Misanthrope; 11-18-13 at 02:56 AM.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by BasicGreatGuy View Post
    Human sacrifice is against the law, because it infringes on another person's right of due process. Ergo, human sacrifice is not protected under the I Amendment.
    What if the sacrificial human volunteers for the sacred rite? Due process applies if the one infringed upon isn't onboard with the action. It's one thing to drag the virgin to the Pit O' Death, another if she dives right in...

    It seems to me the 'personal responsibility, let's not turn this place into a nanny state' crowd would allow human sacrifice if the 'victim' is willing. She chooses to smoke- that will kill ya, she chooses to use IV drugs- lots of things the 'no nanny state crowd embraces- why not voluntary human sacrifice????

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