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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Freedom/tolerance depends on numbers. See how tolerated or how free you are to practice your minority religion if it conflicts with the "moral majority's" religion, which, when it gets down to tin tacks, was brutally forced down the throats of their poor oppressed ancestors.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Frankly there is too much slop in that factor. What is organized? and who does the accepting? Are you saying there can be no new religions?

    I'd say some religions in this country are more 'equal' than others under the law. I personally never quite understood putting God on our money or in a Pledge, but that hardly equals the harsh suppression many religions receive around the world.
    I know that there is a lot of interpretation and that "Accepted" religions often preach hate... but none practice human or animal sacrifice or have true hate messages. I think the Southern Baptist ones that protest outside soldiers funerals should not qualify as a religion. If a church or group starts doing stuff like that they should have their credentials revoked.
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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Misanthrope View Post
    Freedom/tolerance depends on numbers. See how tolerated or how free you are to practice your minority religion if it conflicts with the "moral majority's" religion, which, when it gets down to tin tacks, was brutally forced down the throats of their poor oppressed ancestors.
    ARe you an aborigine, or something?
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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I know that there is a lot of interpretation and that "Accepted" religions often preach hate... but none practice human or animal sacrifice or have true hate messages. I think the Southern Baptist ones that protest outside soldiers funerals should not qualify as a religion. If a church or group starts doing stuff like that they should have their credentials revoked.
    Bod...

    The Westboro Baptist Church isn't affiliated with any Baptist denomination. The Baptist World Alliance and the Southern Baptist Convention (the two largest Baptist denominations) have each denounced the WBC over the years.

    So you might say their credentials were revoked....

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    How about Christian religious leaders who preach hate toward others and other religions? Quran burners and Gay bashers? I understand some can warp the Quran to say hateful things but then again our Bible has been used to justify everything from genocide to simple lynchings.

    Perhaps the better phrasing would be those who use the guise of religion to promote hate, intolerance, and violence should lose their tax free status.
    It all boils down to "my religion is the only true religion and God (who I speak for) says you are bad if you don't believe me."

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Bod...

    The Westboro Baptist Church isn't affiliated with any Baptist denomination. The Baptist World Alliance and the Southern Baptist Convention (the two largest Baptist denominations) have each denounced the WBC over the years.

    So you might say their credentials were revoked....
    Thanks... didn't know that. Then does the WBC have Church/Religion status in the USA? I don't think that they should...

    EDIT: Only 40 members or so? And monitored by hate group organisations... good. But it is still a "Church" and I assume with tax exempt status and such.
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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Simple yes or no, if not could you please enlighten a non-US citizen on the reasons why some followers of religions in the US should not have the same religious freedoms as others.

    Oh - and if I got the wrong Amendment, I mean the one about freedom of religious expression.

    Hell we bend over BACKWARD to try to give all religions equal 1A protections... go to ridiculous lengths sometimes to accommodate a religion practiced by only a tiny minority.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Thanks... didn't know that. Then does the WBC have Church/Religion status in the USA? I don't think that they should...
    Only to it's members. It's seen as a cult more than anything else.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Westboro self-labels "Baptist", but no Baptist organization will have anything to do with them or accept them as part of its membership rolls.


    I have yet to meet any Baptist, no matter how conservative or fundamentalist, that doesn't despise Westboro.

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    Re: Does the US First Amendment apply equally to all religions in the US or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    How about Christian religious leaders who preach hate toward others and other religions? Quran burners and Gay bashers? I understand some can warp the Quran to say hateful things but then again our Bible has been used to justify everything from genocide to simple lynchings.

    Perhaps the better phrasing would be those who use the guise of religion to promote hate, intolerance, and violence should lose their tax free status.
    Is the intolerance written into the bible like it is the Quran? If so, please, go ahead and post passage and verse. I admit, on the Quran I am going by what has been reported and claimed, even by Muslims to be there.
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