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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There is a climax scene in Miracle on 42nd?
    Actually, I should have said "climactic."

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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Watching the movie "Miracle on 42nd Street"
    Is that the eighth sequel to Miracle on 34th Street?
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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    There is a climax scene in Miracle on 42nd?
    You know what they say, "Santa Claus is coming ... to town!"
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Watching the movie "Miracle on 42nd Street" I was struck by the climax scene in which the US Post Office was lauded as an institution that always gets it right. Since they delivered mail addressed to Santa Claus to the fellow on trial then that fellow must indeed be Santa, the judge concludes.

    The men back then all wore hats and the women all wore gloves, but the trust they had for the government and its institutions was the most striking of the anachronisms on display in that movie.

    From then to now it has been a steady course of degeneration, not only of the trust in government but of all sorts of institutions.

    Neither the left nor the right trusts government these days. Some on the left think that the Pentagon shot a passenger jet down with a guided missile, executed the inside job known as 9-11, framed a football player for killing his wife, engineered the assassination of JFK, and on and on. Some on the right think that their tax monies are mostly wasted, that green projects are scams, that climate change is a scam. And some from both sides think that their democracy is manipulated by powerful interests.

    Nevertheless, there is a marked asymmetry in reliance that the left and right have on government.
    I grew up in the 50's and back then the majority of Americans did trust their government to do the right thing. Also the old saying, "Close enough for government work," was a compliment if your business could say that. Of course govenment was 100 times smaller, but government workers back then took pride in being a government worker and the work done was among the best.

    Today if you work for the government, you are presumed lazy, have a cushy job, and think the civilian population out there are there to service you instead of you providing a service to them.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I grew up in the 50's and back then the majority of Americans did trust their government to do the right thing. Also the old saying, "Close enough for government work," was a compliment if your business could say that. Of course govenment was 100 times smaller, but government workers back then took pride in being a government worker and the work done was among the best.

    Today if you work for the government, you are presumed lazy, have a cushy job, and think the civilian population out there are there to service you instead of you providing a service to them.
    I have noticed that the BMV is doing a lot better on the "friendly" side. They actually smile occasionally now!

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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    In referring to "patriots" who step in when "private interests" are removed I take him as echoing the old progressive assumption that public servants are incorruptible angels among us as opposed to those evil, selfish capitalists and businessmen. I'm saying there's no such animal, neither in the public nor private spheres. The Constitution was designed to keep everyone in check through a system of checks and balances, a system that assumes the worst about human nature, and that is what is needed in all aspects of government, including in regulatory bodies where it is currently missing. The Executive Branch has gotten so large and so much rule making and discretion in enforcement has been delegated to it that it no longer is subject to those constitutional controls.
    We agree on this my friend. Just saying I didn't take what he said the way you did.
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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I have noticed that the BMV is doing a lot better on the "friendly" side. They actually smile occasionally now!
    Perhaps where you live, but down here it is still a nightmare.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    Where's the "sometimes" poll option? It's not an either/or question. Both 'yes' and 'no' are wrong answers.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Do You Trust the Government to Get Things Right?

    "What is government itself, but the greatest of all reflections on human nature? If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. " James Madison

    I do not trust my government. I believe it is dangerous to do so.
    "If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!" Samuel Adams

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