View Poll Results: Should we send help to the Philippines

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  • Yes, we should send help at the expense of more money to our dept

    24 68.57%
  • No, we should be trying to lower the dept instead

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  • Maybe, i like the idea of helping, but we should find an alternate means if here is one

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The US gives BILLIONS to the UN. Let them handle aid. This should be a world response, not just a US response. Meanwhile people who want to personally give will handle it.
    The UN is an amalgam of countries not an independent entity. As a result the mechanism for action as well as the resources to draw are significantly slower and smaller respectively than for most countries. More pointedly the UN does not have a fleet, it does not have its own on site military personal who can act as an emergency relief army, and it does not have the ability to act immediately. People are dying right now, this isn't something that can wait and it is problem that can be alleviated with prompt action. Let's not use this as an opportunity to pillory the UN or foreign aid, this is common humanity.

    It is worth remembering that after Hurricane Katrina we received nearly $1 billion in donations, aid, consumer goods, and petroleum relief from countries around the world. Sure some offers from the likes of Cuba and Venezuala were publicity stunts, but by and large the outpouring was sincere and global. On a purely humanitarian basis when we needed help we received it without question, likewise when others are imperiled by the unpredictability of mother nature we should not debate our willingness to lend a hand. It is in my view the crux of civilized human society and a shining example of our best as a species.

    Edit: Pointedly many, many other countries have stepped in to help. The British have dispatched a small maritime task force to help in the relief efforts, Malaysia is promising to send its Globemasters to assist in ferrying supplies, Russia offered a rescue time, and other plans are being analyzed.
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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    When people are hit by a natural disaster, you help them - via private channels, via government channels, any way you can. Period. We may be irresponsible screw-ups with mounting debt, as a nation, but we are not animals.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    When people are hit by a natural disaster, you help them - via private channels, via government channels, any way you can. Period. We may be irresponsible screw-ups with mounting debt, as a nation, but we are not animals.
    Well, technically we are. Were definitely not plants.

    But hey, I have a plan, lets take all those welfare people with no jobs, put them on boats over to there and they can do the clean up. Hell, we're already paying them anyway.
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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Seeing the U.S. military in the Philippines delivering thousands of tons of aid gives me goosebumps and hope that the U.S. is really an exceptional nation and not a relic of the 20th Century. And I'll gladly pay the fraction of a cent this will cost me for the propaganda lumps the Chinese are taking at the moment for being such tightwads.
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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Maybe I am late to the discussion, but... we are:

    Villagers mob US aid choppers in Philippines

    Villagers mob US aid choppers in Philippines - One News | TVNZ
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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