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Send help to the Philippines ?

Should we send help to the Philippines

  • Yes, we should send help at the expense of more money to our dept

    Votes: 23 76.7%
  • No, we should be trying to lower the dept instead

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Maybe, i like the idea of helping, but we should find an alternate means if here is one

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
you know i kind of like that idea.

Instead of giving aid, offer an application for statehood. Then they can get aid, but they have to join us and pay taxes.
 
Instead of giving aid, offer an application for statehood. Then they can get aid, but they have to join us and pay taxes.

ya i mean offer all of these country's statehood and we can begin to unite the world. Not everyone would accept of course but if we threatened to pull out our military from places and offered the same kind of aid we would give any of our states, i think that could work.
 
ya i mean offer all of these country's statehood and we can begin to unite the world. Not everyone would accept of course but if we threatened to pull out our military from places and offered the same kind of aid we would give any of our states, i think that could work.

I'm starting a thread on this subject.
 
anonymous polls suck
 
This should be a world response, not just a US response.

It was never "Just a US Response".

Typhoon Haiyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Canada has announced US$5 million in immediate aid, as well as matching any contributions Canadians would make until December 8.[105] Members of the Disaster Assistance Response Team were also deployed (using a Royal Canadian Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III) to conduct search and rescue operations in affected areas.[106]

Chile also pledged to send humanitarian aid.[109][110] Mexico donated US$1,000,000.[111]

China and Vietnam, both typhoon-affected countries, donated US$200,000 and US$100,000 respectively to the Philippine relief effort.[115] China has also provided a donation of US$1.4 million worth of relief supplies and the Vietnam Red Cross is still currently collecting donations and provisions for relief.[116][117]

Taiwan pledged $200,000 in relief funding.[115][121]

Japan has offered humanitarian assistance and sent an assessment team of two people from its Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Japan Disaster Relief Medical Team to the typhoon-affected areas

Russia offered to send a rescue team of 200 people to calamity-affected areas in the Philippines. EMERCOM personnel and Il-76 planes have been deployed to assist in relief and medical efforts after requests were made from Manila to Moscow

South Korea made a move to send aid amounting to $5 million to the Philippines. An emergency relief team composing of at least 34 people will be also sent by the South Korean government.[126] Likewise, South Korean conglomerate Samsung has committed $1 million as financial aid to the Philippines.[126]

On November 13, the Malaysian government stated it will contribute $1 million along with the sending of essential items such as food and medicines worth 1.00 million MYR using the RMAF Charlie C-130 aircraft while Brunei would set up a humanitarian fund for the victims of the typhoon

The Singapore Red Cross received S$145,000 in donations from members of the public and S$200,000 from the Singapore government for humanitarian aid.[135] Singapore has also deployed C-130 aircraft from its Air Force to transport relief supplies to Tacloban

Thailand and Indonesia have also offered humanitarian aid in the form of relief material. Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra told the Public Health Ministry, the three branches of the armed forces and the Foreign Affairs Ministry to take responsibility for organizing the aid, which consisted of food, drinking water and medical aid.[137] Indonesia has pledged to send food, water and generators on its' fourth disaster relief mission in the Philippines.[138]

Israel promised to send medical and search and rescue teams after a six-man consisting of personnel from the Israeli Foreign Ministry and the Israeli Defense Forces' Home Command would survey and assess the situation

Saudi Prince Talal bin Abdul Aziz pledged $100,000 from the kingdom

Meanwhile, United Arab Emirates President Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan personally gave his condolences to President Aquino and donated $10,000,000.

he Iranian Red Crescent Society announced in November 12 that it would offer humanitarian assistance

India has pledged immediate supply of 15 tonnes of relief material. India will be following it up by sending a ship with relief material to the affected areas.[143] On 14 November, India sent a relief package comprising of medicines, hygiene and chemicals, tents, blankets, tarpaulins and ready to eat meals by an air force C-130J.[144][145]

Germany is transporting 23 tons of aid as well as supplying rescue teams.[146] The United Kingdom has offered a support package worth more than £10 million[147] along with HMS Illustrious,[148] HMS Daring and a Royal Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III.[147] The Irish government dispatched around 100 tonnes of emergency supplies from its UN humanitarian aid stocks which are being distributed by Plan Ireland, along with €1 million already pledged by the government.[149] The European Union has offered US$4.2 million.

The Government of Norway has provided 65 million NOK (US$10.6 million) in aid that will be dispersed through Red Cross and UN for actions in the Philippines. Additionally, 70 tonnes of advanced communication equipment was dispatched.[150][151][152] Norwegians supported various aid agencies, such as the Norwegian Red Cross and the Norwegian branch of Save the Children, with donations through texting reaching 20 million NOK (US$3.2 million). The Norwegian Shipowners' Association sent its training vessel into the affected areas, becoming the first civilian ship to take part in the rescue efforts. The ship departed Manila for Tacloban with 100 tonnes of food and medical equipment and personnel.[153][154] The Vatican announced that it will donate $150,000. Pope Francis expressed his sympathy and asked for people to pray in solidarity for the victims.[155]

Australia has pledged $30 million in relief aid.[156] New Zealand committed $1.78 million for the relief operations.[115][121]
 
The US gives BILLIONS to the UN. Let them handle aid. This should be a world response, not just a US response. Meanwhile people who want to personally give will handle it.

The UN is an amalgam of countries not an independent entity. As a result the mechanism for action as well as the resources to draw are significantly slower and smaller respectively than for most countries. More pointedly the UN does not have a fleet, it does not have its own on site military personal who can act as an emergency relief army, and it does not have the ability to act immediately. People are dying right now, this isn't something that can wait and it is problem that can be alleviated with prompt action. Let's not use this as an opportunity to pillory the UN or foreign aid, this is common humanity.

It is worth remembering that after Hurricane Katrina we received nearly $1 billion in donations, aid, consumer goods, and petroleum relief from countries around the world. Sure some offers from the likes of Cuba and Venezuala were publicity stunts, but by and large the outpouring was sincere and global. On a purely humanitarian basis when we needed help we received it without question, likewise when others are imperiled by the unpredictability of mother nature we should not debate our willingness to lend a hand. It is in my view the crux of civilized human society and a shining example of our best as a species.

Edit: Pointedly many, many other countries have stepped in to help. The British have dispatched a small maritime task force to help in the relief efforts, Malaysia is promising to send its Globemasters to assist in ferrying supplies, Russia offered a rescue time, and other plans are being analyzed.
 
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When people are hit by a natural disaster, you help them - via private channels, via government channels, any way you can. Period. We may be irresponsible screw-ups with mounting debt, as a nation, but we are not animals.
 
When people are hit by a natural disaster, you help them - via private channels, via government channels, any way you can. Period. We may be irresponsible screw-ups with mounting debt, as a nation, but we are not animals.

Well, technically we are. Were definitely not plants.

But hey, I have a plan, lets take all those welfare people with no jobs, put them on boats over to there and they can do the clean up. Hell, we're already paying them anyway.
 
Seeing the U.S. military in the Philippines delivering thousands of tons of aid gives me goosebumps and hope that the U.S. is really an exceptional nation and not a relic of the 20th Century. And I'll gladly pay the fraction of a cent this will cost me for the propaganda lumps the Chinese are taking at the moment for being such tightwads.
 
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