View Poll Results: Should we send help to the Philippines

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  • Yes, we should send help at the expense of more money to our dept

    24 68.57%
  • No, we should be trying to lower the dept instead

    7 20.00%
  • Maybe, i like the idea of helping, but we should find an alternate means if here is one

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Positive influence... you mean like us policing half of the world and just making people who hate us hate us more instead of trying to make allies?
    What are you talking about? This is about dispatching food and medicine to distressed human beings. I was merely commenting on the fact that our doing good like this has utility beyond its admittedly laudable moral objectives. Not everything has to descend into the over-used world police trope.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by pvsi View Post
    People are hypocrites, they would have voted very differently in your poll if the money would have to come out directly out of their pockets, so they could not even scroll down to your 3rd choice, because they are sure that someone else is paying that tax money. stupidity for which they as a society themselves will pay.
    That is true of everything its part of why we have a government and a common pool of funds in the first place. Sheesh.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Bitter much. These people have ended up with absolutely nothing. Zero. We will always have money for humanitarian needs of a people that have done nothing to us.
    But will they? people one day china's going to call our tab and we are in no position to pay them off. Will all of those country's that we have spent money stabilizing send money in our hour of need? will our "friends" stand and help? i doubt it

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    That is true of everything its part of why we have a government and a common pool of funds in the first place. Sheesh.
    The third option. no one read it and I am the only one who voted it. the idea of just sending money instead of doing something is the mother of all that is fd up with US in the first place. and these 15 voters prove my point beyond the shadow of the doubt. I am proud to be the only one who voted a third option. oh and it just happens to be I am a working man.

    Oh and just one more thing. my wifes family is in Cebu/Toledo/Bato - and this tragedy was VERY close to them and where I spent the winter couple of years ago. but it does not change reality.
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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You're too late-the money and the help is already there or it's on the way.
    Be that as that may be but they have called the 20 mill a "start". i understand we cant take back that money, but why should we suffer to loose say another 20 mill, or maybe this time it will be 40 or 50 million.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    What are you talking about? This is about dispatching food and medicine to distressed human beings. I was merely commenting on the fact that our doing good like this has utility beyond its admittedly laudable moral objectives. Not everything has to descend into the over-used world police trope.
    Doesn't it? is that not the way we bring our influence around the world? yes we do it by sending help like this but we also have the military perspective. Hell we send the military on help outs to keep looting down and to hand out food. we cant even help without showing off our military.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by pvsi View Post
    The third option. no one read it and I am the only one who voted it. the idea of just sending money instead of doing something is the mother of all that is fd up with US in the first place. and these 15 voters prove my point beyond the shadow of the doubt. I am proud to be the only one who voted a third option. oh and it just happens to be I am a working man.

    Oh and just one more thing. my wifes family is in Cebu/Toledo/Bato - and this tragedy was VERY close to them and where I spent the winter couple of years ago. but it does not change reality.
    I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    When your neighbours house is on fire you don't haggle over the cost of your garden hose.

    $20 million and any aid to follow is a drop in the bucket.
    Acceptable argument. Did I at least get a decent grammar grade.

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I don't understand what you are trying to say.
    government aside, people are hypocrites not to even scroll down to a third option and vote "just send money even though we don't have it"

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    Re: Send help to the Philippines ?

    We need to help others when we can. We have the ability to in this case, Dollars in aid should equal at least dollars spent to create US jobs though. Send them goods made here to help them out, don't send them money.

    I'm sure it seems hard to get this concept when our government has awarded contracts to other countries trying to save a buck, but some spending (aid) does create US jobs. Does it create as many as many jobs as if the money were left in the private sector? I doubt it, but that is something neither of us can prove on either side.

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