View Poll Results: Pick every time you think there were two candidates better than Clinton vs Christie.

Voters
24. You may not vote on this poll
  • 5 years (Obama vs McCain, Romeny)

    0 0%
  • 6-13 years (W Bush vs Kerry, Gore)

    3 12.50%
  • 14-21 years (Clinton vs Dole, H.W. Bush)

    6 25.00%
  • 22-25 years (H.W. Bush vs Dukakis)

    0 0%
  • 26-33 years (Reagan vs Mondale, Carter)

    7 29.17%
  • 34-37 years (Cater vs Ford)

    1 4.17%
  • 38-45 years ( Nixon vs Humphrey, McGovern)

    2 8.33%
  • 46-49 years ( Johnson vs Goldwater)

    5 20.83%
  • 50-54 years (Kennedy vs Nixon)

    13 54.17%
  • I love mashed potatoes . . .hmmmmmmmmm

    6 25.00%
Multiple Choice Poll.
Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 43

Thread: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

  1. #1
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,761

    Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    PLEASE READ BEFORE VOTING!!!

    ok ok calm down, reading all the early obnoxious polls like this:
    Poll: Clinton leads Christie in early look at 2016

    Having Clinton vs Christie and Clinton winning got me thinking, what if that is what happens?
    What if these are the two people who run against each other?

    While i dont agree with them both on everything i do like things about both of them, I honestly believe that would be the two best candidates to run against each other or at least among the best in 50 years.

    I can honestly say barring something extreme being in their running platforms i would be "OK" with either of them so im curious what others think especially since so many seem to like them both.

    Now again this isnt about who is better between them or what individual stances you like about them but about if you think it would be the best two candidates or among the best we have had in 50 years? I think so.

    i only have 10 spots in a poll so im just going to group the winning president with who ran against him, please vote for the times you think the presidential candidates were better, and no not ONE candidate better, but BOTH. When were there two candidate that were better?

    I did this quick so i may have made mistakes in the years etc but who cares, here they are check all that apply when you see TWO candidates you think are better?
    Please pick all the times you think the TWO candidates were BOTH better than Clinton vs Christie would be.

    5 years (Obama vs McCain, Romney
    6-13 years (W Bush vs Kerry, Gore)
    14-21 years (Clinton vs Dole, H.W. Bush)
    22-25 years (H.W. Bush vs Dukakis)
    26-33 years (Reagan vs Mondale, Carter)
    34-37 years (Cater vs Ford)
    38-45 years ( Nixon vs Humphrey, McGovern)
    46-49 years ( Johnson vs Goldwater)
    50-54 years (Kennedy vs Nixon)
    I love mashed potatoes . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Poll to follow be patient

    also please feel free to specify exactly which are better when the groups are together

    Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?-mashed_potatoes_with_marsala_gravy_v03-jpg
    Last edited by AGENT J; 11-15-13 at 02:10 AM.
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  2. #2
    Preserve Protect Defend
    Beaudreaux's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Covfefe, NC
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:26 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    15,566

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    PLEASE READ BEFORE VOTING!!!

    ok ok calm down, reading all the early obnoxious polls like this:
    Poll: Clinton leads Christie in early look at 2016

    Having Clinton vs Christie and Clinton winning got me thinking, what if that is what happens?
    What if these are the two people who run against each other?

    While i dont agree with them both on everything i do like things about both of them, I honestly believe that would be the two best candidates to run against each other or at least among the best in 50 years.

    I can honestly say barring something extreme being in their running platforms i would be "OK" with either of them so im curious what others think especially since so many seem to like them both.

    Now again this isnt about who is better between them or what individual stances you like about them but about if you think it would be the best two candidates or among the best we have had in 50 years? I think so.

    i only have 10 spots in a poll so im just going to group the winning president with who ran against him, please vote for the times you think the presidential candidates were better, and no not ONE candidate better, but BOTH. When were there two candidate that were better?

    I did this quick so i may have made mistakes in the years etc but who cares, here they are check all that apply when you see TWO candidates you think are better?
    Please pick all the times you think the TWO candidates were BOTH better than Clinton vs Christie would be.

    5 years (Obama vs McCain, Romney
    6-13 years (W Bush vs Kerry, Gore)
    14-21 years (Clinton vs Dole, H.W. Bush)
    22-25 years (H.W. Bush vs Dukakis)
    26-33 years (Reagan vs Mondale, Carter)
    34-37 years (Cater vs Ford)
    38-45 years ( Nixon vs Humphrey, McGovern)
    46-49 years ( Johnson vs Goldwater)
    50-54 years (Kennedy vs Nixon)
    I love mashed potatoes . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Poll to follow be patient

    also please feel free to specify exactly which are better when the groups are together

    Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?-mashed_potatoes_with_marsala_gravy_v03-jpg
    Great idea for a thread.

    I started to pick both Kennedy/Nixon and Johnson/Goldwater, but given the parameter (better than Clinton/Christie) I could only vote for Johnson/Goldwater.

    The reason? Where Kennedy was equal or superior in many ways to Mrs. Clinton, Nixon although a brilliant Chief Executive and good campaigner, was not as capable at the time of the 1968 election to garner support from as broad a cross section of ideologies as Christie can today. Kennedy won for many reasons, two of the most relevant were his charisma allowing him to connect across party lines and his amazing war record (or at least his heroic saving of his crew of the PT-109). Kennedy was a mix of liberalism and conservatism not seen in today's prominent politician. The closest may be Joe Manchin in the Democrat party and Richard Burr in the Republican Party.

    Johnson and Goldwater however were both political juggernauts. Both were highly intellectual and both could connect across party lines. Johnson was running on the coat-tales of the slain King of Camelot, hence the overwhelming win by Johnson of 44 states plus the District of Columbia (486 electoral votes) to Goldwater's 6 states (44 electoral votes). This however doesn't diminish the intensity of the campaigns or the level of discussion that the campaigns created in the populous. Their campaigns brought to the forefront of the national debate many of the social questions and level of government questions that are still debated hotly today.

  3. #3
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,761

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Great idea for a thread.

    I started to pick both Kennedy/Nixon and Johnson/Goldwater, but given the parameter (better than Clinton/Christie) I could only vote for Johnson/Goldwater.

    The reason? Where Kennedy was equal or superior in many ways to Mrs. Clinton, Nixon although a brilliant Chief Executive and good campaigner, was not as capable at the time of the 1968 election to garner support from as broad a cross section of ideologies as Christie can today. Kennedy won for many reasons, two of the most relevant were his charisma allowing him to connect across party lines and his amazing war record (or at least his heroic saving of his crew of the PT-109). Kennedy was a mix of liberalism and conservatism not seen in today's prominent politician. The closest may be Joe Manchin in the Democrat party and Richard Burr in the Republican Party.

    Johnson and Goldwater however were both political juggernauts. Both were highly intellectual and both could connect across party lines. Johnson was running on the coat-tales of the slain King of Camelot, hence the overwhelming win by Johnson of 44 states plus the District of Columbia (486 electoral votes) to Goldwater's 6 states (44 electoral votes). This however doesn't diminish the intensity of the campaigns or the level of discussion that the campaigns created in the populous. Their campaigns brought to the forefront of the national debate many of the social questions and level of government questions that are still debated hotly today.
    awesome insight!

    While i have "read" about those elections some i have no personal insight since its before my time its why i havent voted yet but im going to, i was going to vote for Kennedy/Nixon just based on reading but again, before my time.
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  4. #4
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,761

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Great idea for a thread.

    I started to pick both Kennedy/Nixon and Johnson/Goldwater, but given the parameter (better than Clinton/Christie) I could only vote for Johnson/Goldwater.

    The reason? Where Kennedy was equal or superior in many ways to Mrs. Clinton, Nixon although a brilliant Chief Executive and good campaigner, was not as capable at the time of the 1968 election to garner support from as broad a cross section of ideologies as Christie can today. Kennedy won for many reasons, two of the most relevant were his charisma allowing him to connect across party lines and his amazing war record (or at least his heroic saving of his crew of the PT-109). Kennedy was a mix of liberalism and conservatism not seen in today's prominent politician. The closest may be Joe Manchin in the Democrat party and Richard Burr in the Republican Party.

    Johnson and Goldwater however were both political juggernauts. Both were highly intellectual and both could connect across party lines. Johnson was running on the coat-tales of the slain King of Camelot, hence the overwhelming win by Johnson of 44 states plus the District of Columbia (486 electoral votes) to Goldwater's 6 states (44 electoral votes). This however doesn't diminish the intensity of the campaigns or the level of discussion that the campaigns created in the populous. Their campaigns brought to the forefront of the national debate many of the social questions and level of government questions that are still debated hotly today.
    also here is two cool sites with commercial and info over the last 50 years im lookin at
    Hasn’t Always Been Like This – Presidential Election 50 year History
    The Living Room Candidate
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  5. #5
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Location
    Colorado, U.S.A
    Last Seen
    06-05-14 @ 11:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    464

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    awesome insight!

    While i have "read" about those elections some i have no personal insight since its before my time its why i haven't voted yet but im going to, i was going to vote for Kennedy/Nixon just based on reading but again, before my time.
    Most of these were well before my time but the ones youve pointed out were pretty good from what I've read. Obama vs. Romney was just another oneof who can shove the mast money into their campaign.

  6. #6
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,761

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Most of these were well before my time but the ones youve pointed out were pretty good from what I've read. Obama vs. Romney was just another oneof who can shove the mast money into their campaign.
    some info you might find interesting . . . . . . .
    The 2012 Money Race: Compare the Candidates - NYTimes.com
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  7. #7
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    The Republic of Texas.
    Last Seen
    11-15-17 @ 11:40 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,647

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    PLEASE READ BEFORE VOTING!!!

    ok ok calm down, reading all the early obnoxious polls like this:
    Poll: Clinton leads Christie in early look at 2016

    Having Clinton vs Christie and Clinton winning got me thinking, what if that is what happens?
    What if these are the two people who run against each other?

    While i dont agree with them both on everything i do like things about both of them, I honestly believe that would be the two best candidates to run against each other or at least among the best in 50 years.

    I can honestly say barring something extreme being in their running platforms i would be "OK" with either of them so im curious what others think especially since so many seem to like them both.

    Now again this isnt about who is better between them or what individual stances you like about them but about if you think it would be the best two candidates or among the best we have had in 50 years? I think so.

    i only have 10 spots in a poll so im just going to group the winning president with who ran against him, please vote for the times you think the presidential candidates were better, and no not ONE candidate better, but BOTH. When were there two candidate that were better?

    I did this quick so i may have made mistakes in the years etc but who cares, here they are check all that apply when you see TWO candidates you think are better?
    Please pick all the times you think the TWO candidates were BOTH better than Clinton vs Christie would be.

    5 years (Obama vs McCain, Romney
    6-13 years (W Bush vs Kerry, Gore)
    14-21 years (Clinton vs Dole, H.W. Bush)
    22-25 years (H.W. Bush vs Dukakis)
    26-33 years (Reagan vs Mondale, Carter)
    34-37 years (Cater vs Ford)
    38-45 years ( Nixon vs Humphrey, McGovern)
    46-49 years ( Johnson vs Goldwater)
    50-54 years (Kennedy vs Nixon)
    I love mashed potatoes . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Poll to follow be patient

    also please feel free to specify exactly which are better when the groups are together

    Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?-mashed_potatoes_with_marsala_gravy_v03-jpg
    No, not mashed potatoes, but one choice of response is related to MASH.

    Suicide Is Painless (MASH Theme) with lyrics - YouTube

    Or

    Tom Petty and The HeartBreakers- Rebels - YouTube

    and Ammo Sale - Ammunition Sale - Discount Ammo - Ammo De : Cabela's, they might be having an election special sale at the time.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

  8. #8
    Guru
    Smeagol's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    02-19-17 @ 11:35 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,147

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    PLEASE READ BEFORE VOTING!!!

    ok ok calm down, reading all the early obnoxious polls like this:
    Poll: Clinton leads Christie in early look at 2016

    Having Clinton vs Christie and Clinton winning got me thinking, what if that is what happens?
    What if these are the two people who run against each other?

    While i dont agree with them both on everything i do like things about both of them, I honestly believe that would be the two best candidates to run against each other or at least among the best in 50 years.

    I can honestly say barring something extreme being in their running platforms i would be "OK" with either of them so im curious what others think especially since so many seem to like them both.

    Now again this isnt about who is better between them or what individual stances you like about them but about if you think it would be the best two candidates or among the best we have had in 50 years? I think so.

    i only have 10 spots in a poll so im just going to group the winning president with who ran against him, please vote for the times you think the presidential candidates were better, and no not ONE candidate better, but BOTH. When were there two candidate that were better?

    I did this quick so i may have made mistakes in the years etc but who cares, here they are check all that apply when you see TWO candidates you think are better?
    Please pick all the times you think the TWO candidates were BOTH better than Clinton vs Christie would be.

    5 years (Obama vs McCain, Romney
    6-13 years (W Bush vs Kerry, Gore)
    14-21 years (Clinton vs Dole, H.W. Bush)
    22-25 years (H.W. Bush vs Dukakis)
    26-33 years (Reagan vs Mondale, Carter)
    34-37 years (Cater vs Ford)
    38-45 years ( Nixon vs Humphrey, McGovern)
    46-49 years ( Johnson vs Goldwater)
    50-54 years (Kennedy vs Nixon)
    I love mashed potatoes . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Poll to follow be patient

    also please feel free to specify exactly which are better when the groups are together

    Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?-mashed_potatoes_with_marsala_gravy_v03-jpg
    Good question. I would have to go with Clinton vs. Christie but I wonder if that has more to do with being most familiar with the candidates since I wasn't alive when Kennedy ran against Nixon, for example.

    I like both Clinton and Christie but Christie more for few reasons. Clinton seems to have a mean streak especially during campaign seasons. Christie has proven probably more than any politician in America a willingness to work with all other leaders for the benefit of the people he serves, particularly noteworthy in a climate where being an absolute jerk and treating the sitting president as the enemy of the country is actually an advantage with his party's base. Other than Christie, the current culture of the GOP honestly makes me ashamed to be a Republican.

    I doubt Christie can get the nomination but if he wins it, I'll likely support him. Anybody else and I'll vote for Secretary Clinton. Either would make a good President.
    Having opinions all over the map is a good sign of a person capable of autonomous thinking. Felix -2011

  9. #9
    I'm kind of a big deal

    AGENT J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Pittsburgh
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 02:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    44,761

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Good question. I would have to go with Clinton vs. Christie but I wonder if that has more to do with being most familiar with the candidates since I wasn't alive when Kennedy ran against Nixon, for example.

    I like both Clinton and Christie but Christie more for few reasons. Clinton seems to have a mean streak especially during campaign seasons. Christie has proven probably more than any politician in America a willingness to work with all other leaders for the benefit of the people he serves, particularly noteworthy in a climate where being an absolute jerk and treating the sitting president as the enemy of the country is actually an advantage with his party's base. Other than Christie, the current culture of the GOP honestly makes me ashamed to be a Republican.

    I doubt Christie can get the nomination but if he wins it, I'll likely support him. Anybody else and I'll vote for Secretary Clinton. Either would make a good President.
    I have to agree in many way not all

    I also like that about christie too, i dont know if it was show or not but it defineitley seem to work aaaaaand its what i would want a president/Governor etc to do.

    Cant remember what it was but werent people made at him during the election cause he didnt attend something for Romney? BUT the reason was because he was dealing with the crisis in his state and he verbally said, if anybody thinks it was more important for me to sit at some dinner than to be haloing the people in my state that needs they can pound salt. Something like that? Whatever it was i like it.
    This space is currently owned by The Great Winchester, stay tuned for future messages!
    Make America Great Again!
    Pro-Equal Rights / Pro-Gun Rights / Pro-Human Rights / Pro-Choice

  10. #10
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:27 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,611

    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    I do think that - as of today - both Christie and Clinton might be the most electable candidates their respective parties can put forward. However, I suspect that Christie is not going to be able to get through the GOP primary cycle as it favors the right.

    However, if they both are nominated, I suspect that Clinton would have a built in advantage as the first female candidate in an electorate with a majority female voting population. I also think Christie has a tendency to make bombastic statements and that could open the door for a Romney type 47% fiasco at any point.

    I would guess that the best matchup was JFK vs. Nixon.
    Last edited by haymarket; 11-15-13 at 11:37 AM.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •