View Poll Results: Pick every time you think there were two candidates better than Clinton vs Christie.

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  • 5 years (Obama vs McCain, Romeny)

    0 0%
  • 6-13 years (W Bush vs Kerry, Gore)

    3 12.50%
  • 14-21 years (Clinton vs Dole, H.W. Bush)

    6 25.00%
  • 22-25 years (H.W. Bush vs Dukakis)

    0 0%
  • 26-33 years (Reagan vs Mondale, Carter)

    7 29.17%
  • 34-37 years (Cater vs Ford)

    1 4.17%
  • 38-45 years ( Nixon vs Humphrey, McGovern)

    2 8.33%
  • 46-49 years ( Johnson vs Goldwater)

    5 20.83%
  • 50-54 years (Kennedy vs Nixon)

    13 54.17%
  • I love mashed potatoes . . .hmmmmmmmmm

    6 25.00%
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Thread: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Great idea for a thread.

    I started to pick both Kennedy/Nixon and Johnson/Goldwater, but given the parameter (better than Clinton/Christie) I could only vote for Johnson/Goldwater.

    The reason? Where Kennedy was equal or superior in many ways to Mrs. Clinton, Nixon although a brilliant Chief Executive and good campaigner, was not as capable at the time of the 1968 election to garner support from as broad a cross section of ideologies as Christie can today. Kennedy won for many reasons, two of the most relevant were his charisma allowing him to connect across party lines and his amazing war record (or at least his heroic saving of his crew of the PT-109). Kennedy was a mix of liberalism and conservatism not seen in today's prominent politician. The closest may be Joe Manchin in the Democrat party and Richard Burr in the Republican Party.

    Johnson and Goldwater however were both political juggernauts. Both were highly intellectual and both could connect across party lines. Johnson was running on the coat-tales of the slain King of Camelot, hence the overwhelming win by Johnson of 44 states plus the District of Columbia (486 electoral votes) to Goldwater's 6 states (44 electoral votes). This however doesn't diminish the intensity of the campaigns or the level of discussion that the campaigns created in the populous. Their campaigns brought to the forefront of the national debate many of the social questions and level of government questions that are still debated hotly today.
    The fact that people still reference Goldwater shows what a political force he was. He was definitely a game changer; the climate at the time just wasn't conducive to his winning.

    People still refer to themselves as Goldwater Republican. I ain't ever heard anyone refer to himself as a Mondale Democrat.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    well according to the link Romney spent 6 million dollars more than Obama, but Obama raised 80 million more than Romney. by not spending the 90 million dollar difference compared to Romney who spent almost every cent he could get, Obama showed the people he was more conservative with the money and made people want to trust him more with our money. Now mind you that really dident work out when you consider the dept we have and how much he had contributed, but this was the elections. And of course you cant say he isent a good speaker
    There is not a scintilla of evidence to support this theory.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    There is not a scintilla of evidence to support this theory.
    read my last comment in this thread

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    read my last comment in this thread
    Fair enough, I hadn't gotten that far in the thread and didn't realize this was not your theory.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Fair enough, I hadn't gotten that far in the thread and didn't realize this was not your theory.
    no worrys

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    I suspect people are getting tired of Christie-is-fat jokes.

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I think people who said the same thing about Reagan/Carter in 1980 and Bush/Gore in 2000 were equally accurate.
    I bet they didn't have web sites like DIY Drones back then either.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The fact that people still reference Goldwater shows what a political force he was. He was definitely a game changer; the climate at the time just wasn't conducive to his winning.

    People still refer to themselves as Goldwater Republican. I ain't ever heard anyone refer to himself as a Mondale Democrat.
    I see myself, in may ways, as a Goldwater Republican. Which unfortunately means I don't fit very well into the current ideology of the Republican Party.

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I see myself, in may ways, as a Goldwater Republican. Which unfortunately means I don't fit very well into the current ideology of the Republican Party.
    I honestly respect Goldwater Republicans more than the people who carry water for the travesty that is the modern Republican Party.

    The Dems are no better. Two corporatist sides of the same coin.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I honestly respect Goldwater Republicans more than the people who carry water for the travesty that is the modern Republican Party.

    The Dems are no better. Two corporatist sides of the same coin.
    Thank you, and you're correct.

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