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Thread: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think he was refering to 2008 when President Obama spent 750 million vs. 328 million for McCain, that was per ABC news. But I don't think that huge difference really was the deciding factor. I think it was more that the electorate were just fed up and tired of Republican rule. Time for a change and if McCain had a billion and one half dollars the results would have been the same.
    i only posted vs Romney though ill have to wait and see what he says

    also i agree with the bolded
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    well according to the link Romney spent 6 million dollars more than Obama, but Obama raised 80 million more than Romney. by not spending the 90 million dollar difference compared to Romney who spent almost every cent he could get, Obama showed the people he was more conservative with the money and made people want to trust him more with our money. Now mind you that really dident work out when you consider the dept we have and how much he had contributed, but this was the elections. And of course you cant say he isent a good speaker
    really? interesting ive never heard any theory like that ever

    but my instant question is, what percentage of the voters do you think were actually aware of that, how accurate/available was that info during the campaign and before voting day and then lastly what percentage of voters actually care about that?

    interesting theory but it doesnt sell to me

    i mean people are very different that could of just as easily made some people think he was trying to be shady and use the money in other ways. Just saying but that was interesting.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) i did think about adding them but i wanted it to be a two vs two and i also get even more unfamiliar with the 3rd guy as time goes.

    2.) hmmm i think a fresh face is a big risk for them unless you just mean fresh on the national scene. Would Cory Booker qualify for fresh face or do you mean totally new.

    I do however agree in certain ways that Im not willing to give her the push unless she makes it through the primaries, i know that seems obvious lol but what i mean to express by that is that its possible she may not get it, but i do think if she does she has it locked. But 2016 is so far away.

    3.) I agree how many GOPers bash him that could cause him not to be the nominee but when it comes to "winning" and putting up qlitifed people i think that move would be dumb

    4.) yeah they are fun at times
    I hadn't thought of Booker, but Mark Warner, Brian Schweltzer and John Hickenlooper have crossed my mind. My dark horse or wild card might be Jay Nixon of Missouri. Notice I have 3 governors or ex-governors and only one senator. I had thought of Andrew Cuomo, but if you throw in Clinton, senator NY, Biden, DE, warren MA along with Booker NJ, these are all from the Northeast although Clinton may be a stretch. Perhaps some of my choices would end up being VP candidates. VA, MT, CO, and MO. Time will tell.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I hadn't thought of Booker, but Mark Warner, Brian Schweltzer and John Hickenlooper have crossed my mind. My dark horse or wild card might be Jay Nixon of Missouri. Notice I have 3 governors or ex-governors and only one senator. I had thought of Andrew Cuomo, but if you throw in Clinton, senator NY, Biden, DE, warren MA along with Booker NJ, these are all from the Northeast although Clinton may be a stretch. Perhaps some of my choices would end up being VP candidates. VA, MT, CO, and MO. Time will tell.
    hmmmm interesting, just curious how fresh of a face you meant, not familiar with all of them ill have to check them out.

    I think a push for a woman is going to happen, not saying they will be the best just saying i think that might happen.

    Also when McCain went and got a woman i honestly thought that was a BRILLIANT move but then the woman was Palin who on a national stage was no where near ready and it hurt.

    They should asked Rice, that would have been interesting
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i only posted vs Romney though ill have to wait and see what he says

    also i agree with the bolded
    Just the way I read it. It seems some people need a ton of excuses to justify defeat when the main reason is staring them right in the face.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    hmmmm interesting, just curious how fresh of a face you meant, not familiar with all of them ill have to check them out.

    I think a push for a woman is going to happen, not saying they will be the best just saying i think that might happen.

    Also when McCain went and got a woman i honestly thought that was a BRILLIANT move but then the woman was Palin who on a national stage was no where near ready and it hurt.

    They should asked Rice, that would have been interesting
    The Palin choice made no sense to me unless he thought he was shoring up his base. You know, to bring ideological balance to the ticket. The other reason that usually plays a big choice or it use to is to pick someone from a swing state to bring its EV into you column. Palin also failed on that account, AK with 3 EV was going to be McCain's anyway. That pick left me scratching my head.

    I agree, Condi Rice would have been my choice too if it was just to get a woman on the ticket. Jim Gilmore of VA or Tommy Thompson of WI might have given him a real shot at those states as his VP choice. All the others were from relative safe states I can think of except Giuliani of NY and McCain wasn't going to win NY even with him on the ticket. I don't think Giuliani could have carried NY if he was in the presidential slot. But it might have made that state interesting.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    really? interesting ive never heard any theory like that ever

    but my instant question is, what percentage of the voters do you think were actually aware of that, how accurate/available was that info during the campaign and before voting day and then lastly what percentage of voters actually care about that?

    interesting theory but it doesnt sell to me

    i mean people are very different that could of just as easily made some people think he was trying to be shady and use the money in other ways. Just saying but that was interesting.
    ill admit, its not one of my favorite theory's, but i did find it an interesting one. and your right, a lot of that info wasn't around in voting time, so i could be wrong. Im actually quoting my grandfather there and hes a bit of a conspiracy/political-tricks theory junky. Hes right on a lot of things but there are a few points that i'm like ummmmm....

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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    1.)The Palin choice made no sense to me unless he thought he was shoring up his base. You know, to bring ideological balance to the ticket. The other reason that usually plays a big choice or it use to is to pick someone from a swing state to bring its EV into you column. Palin also failed on that account, AK with 3 EV was going to be McCain's anyway. That pick left me scratching my head.

    2.)I agree, Condi Rice would have been my choice too if it was just to get a woman on the ticket. Jim Gilmore of VA or Tommy Thompson of WI might have given him a real shot at those states as his VP choice. All the others were from relative safe states I can think of except Giuliani of NY and McCain wasn't going to win NY even with him on the ticket.

    3.) I don't think Giuliani could have carried NY if he was in the presidential slot. But it might have made that state interesting.
    1.) agreed it was a mistake and it hurt more than helped
    2.) well i think Rice would have been a great dynamic because not only a woman but a minority woman, "media wise" thats a very great counter.

    THink about the republicans putting the first woman in office even if VP and her be a minority? Media mileage for years to come.

    I think the ONLY reason she probably wasnt a hard push is the association with Bush.

    3.) i was always surprised he didn't run?
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    If those two are the best choice America has, then we are so deep in ****, we will never shovel our way out.
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    Re: Christie vs Clinton 2016, best candidates or top best canidates in 50 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    If those two are the best choice America has, then we are so deep in ****, we will never shovel our way out.
    I think people who said the same thing about Reagan/Carter in 1980 and Bush/Gore in 2000 were equally accurate.
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