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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Hypocrisy? Care to explain how what he is saying is hypocrisy? If he did otherwise, and you could prove it...that might be hypocrisy... but just to claim hypocrisy without any basis...well...
    My basis is that these ultra-conservative parents who attempt to force their values onto a child to be the same as them, are ignoring the child's individuality, which is a key part of conservatism. I am aware that other parents with more leftist views may do the same, however due to a likely religious upbringing in a conservative household, they are more likely to "tow in line" so to speak.
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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If You Want a Conservative Child | National Review Online

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    So, the question: is this supposed to be taken seriously, or is this a Colbert style parody? I really just cannot tell, but the article is good for many laughs.
    There are in fact grains of truth with what the writer in question says, however they are buried in bull****.
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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I should be clear that while I am making fun of the writer of the article and those who think like that, I don't think most conservatives do think like this.
    Why don't you break down that for which you are actually "making fun of the writer"? I am curious as to what might be so funny, what might not be absolutely serious and what you might think would be a better plan for children being inundated today with all sorts of silliness that either keeps them, or delays them, from being/becoming the good solid citizens that have a sense of right and wrong and just what is a positive direction for them individually, and we as a nation, to pursue?
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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spriggs05 View Post
    My basis is that these ultra-conservative parents who attempt to force their values onto a child to be the same as them, are ignoring the child's individuality, which is a key part of conservatism. I am aware that other parents with more leftist views may do the same, however due to a likely religious upbringing in a conservative household, they are more likely to "tow in line" so to speak.
    Where was the force you speak of? I believe these are just suggestions, he didn't say chain your children, whip your children... he gives cautions that are pretty much dead on as to what you will often be taught in school, K-12 thru university, nowadays.

    How, when you know these to be wrong and unsuccessful methods as an approach to reasoning or as a way of life, how does one go about inoculating one's own children against such silliness? You don't agree, for instance, that self esteem must be earned, it is not just to be freely distributed... be like making everyone a millionaire by giving everyone a million dollars... they would be a millionaire alright, but it would have no meaning, no value.
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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spriggs05 View Post
    My basis is that these ultra-conservative parents who attempt to force their values onto a child to be the same as them, are ignoring the child's individuality, which is a key part of conservatism. I am aware that other parents with more leftist views may do the same, however due to a likely religious upbringing in a conservative household, they are more likely to "tow in line" so to speak.
    When you have children you will understand.

    Character matters.
    Your word matters.
    What you do matters.

    Good parents do indoctrinate their children, but not in the way most people think. Good parents do this by example to the best of their ability. Children learn not from what you preach but from what you DO. Do as I say not as do does not work well, if at all truth be told. The fool writer thinks you must reaffirm the your "values" or by the time your children graduate college they will be lost. If they are so easily swayed they were ALREADY lost. You reaffirm your values by LIVING your values. Action talks, bull**** walks. You want your children to have character and a moral compass and integrity then you better damn well live that way. Your children WILL do as YOU do. I am NOT a friend to my children. I could care less if they hate my guts momentarily, and I make sure they know it. I am their parent and it is mine and there mothers mission in life to see to it they are taught what they need to know to be successful and thrive. Their mother and I make sure they know that as well. Our love for them is also demonstrated and made known.

    There is one piece of advice that Mr. Prager offers that is of merit, that is you should encourage your children to delay college for a bit then go. The exception being your children know EXCACTLY what they want and are intent on achieving it. Otherwise its best to delay school for a bit an figure out if that's a good route to take.
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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    When you have children you will understand.

    Character matters.
    Your word matters.
    What you do matters.

    Good parents do indoctrinate their children, but not in the way most people think. Good parents do this by example to the best of their ability. Children learn not from what you preach but from what you DO. Do as I say not as do does not work well, if at all truth be told. The fool writer thinks you must reaffirm the your "values" or by the time your children graduate college they will be lost. If they are so easily swayed they were ALREADY lost. You reaffirm your values by LIVING your values. Action talks, bull**** walks. You want your children to have character and a moral compass and integrity then you better damn well live that way. Your children WILL do as YOU do. I am NOT a friend to my children. I could care less if they hate my guts momentarily, and I make sure they know it. I am their parent and it is mine and there mothers mission in life to see to it they are taught what they need to know to be successful and thrive. Their mother and I make sure they know that as well. Our love for them is also demonstrated and made known.
    You seem to have confused pointing out the need for discussing the "why" you do things with not actually doing them. Praeger is saying tell the kid why he's not supposed to hit girls, along with telling him not to hit girls and then refusing to hit girls yourself. Equip your child not just with good habits, but with understanding.

    The model you have presented, merely not hitting girls in front of him and hope that he has enough ESP to pick up the message is as much of an overly simplistic joke as that which you have accused him of.


    There is one piece of advice that Mr. Prager offers that is of merit, that is you should encourage your children to delay college for a bit then go. The exception being your children know EXCACTLY what they want and are intent on achieving it. Otherwise its best to delay school for a bit an figure out if that's a good route to take.


    I've noticed the same thing .

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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    You seem to have confused pointing out the need for discussing the "why" you do things with not actually doing them. Praeger is saying tell the kid why he's not supposed to hit girls, along with telling him not to hit girls and then refusing to hit girls yourself. Equip your child not just with good habits, but with understanding.

    The model you have presented, merely not hitting girls in front of him and hope that he has enough ESP to pick up the message is as much of an overly simplistic joke as that which you have accused him of.




    I've noticed the same thing .
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    My response was in no way a complete guide in raising children. But the point was and still is, actions still do talk louder than words every will. Do you take the time to explain why you do what you do, that's presumed so. By the time your children are about 10 or so they should be fairly set in their character, moral compass, ect. its mainly fine tuning and learning more nuanced principles. By the time your children hit college they, except for experience, should be fully functional and capable adults. There should be very little of a non catastrophic nature that would test their mettle severely. Mr. Prager seems to imply that children are weak minded. My experience is far from that. By the time a child gets to college age they are pretty much who they are going to be, the only thing missing is time and experience.
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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If You Want a Conservative Child | National Review Online

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    So, the question: is this supposed to be taken seriously, or is this a Colbert style parody? I really just cannot tell, but the article is good for many laughs.
    Do you think so? What makes you think that might be a parody or satire?

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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    My response was in no way a complete guide in raising children. But the point was and still is, actions still do talk louder than words every will. Do you take the time to explain why you do what you do, that's presumed so. By the time your children are about 10 or so they should be fairly set in their character, moral compass, ect. its mainly fine tuning and learning more nuanced principles. By the time your children hit college they, except for experience, should be fully functional and capable adults. There should be very little of a non catastrophic nature that would test their mettle severely. Mr. Prager seems to imply that children are weak minded. My experience is far from that. By the time a child gets to college age they are pretty much who they are going to be, the only thing missing is time and experience.
    Saying that actions talk louder than words is not an effective critique of the point that words should be included. Children will not learn what they are not taught.

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    Re: Serious or Parody?

    The ones that raised me and I know are. I am surrounded by them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I should be clear that while I am making fun of the writer of the article and those who think like that, I don't think most conservatives do think like this.
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