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Is the President YOUR President?

Is the President YOUR President?


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Look at any map published before Jimmy Carter gave away out cana. It says "U.S. Territory, U.S. Canal Zone."

So what. Panama was not a state in this country. Period. Looks like you want to :spin: this thing some more to get the focus off of how foolish you sound. No. We are going to stick with this topic. Panama was absolutely not a state. Point blank. Period. Are we clear on this? If you need further reading I have some unbiased sources for you. Whenever you are clear that John McCain was not born in the United States then we can move on to the next topic.
 
So what. Panama was not a state in this country. Period. Looks like you want to :spin: this thing some more to get the focus off of how foolish you sound. No. We are going to stick with this topic. Panama was absolutely not a state. Point blank. Period. Are we clear on this? If you need further reading I have some unbiased sources for you. Whenever you are clear that John McCain was not born in the United States then we can move on to the next topic.

There you go, who said Panama was a "state." ?

Now your going to have to cut and paste and provide a link where someone said Panama was a "state" so you don't look "foolish."
 
There you go, who said Panama was a "state." ?

Now your going to have to cut and paste and provide a link where someone said Panama was a "state" so you don't look "foolish."

Why don't you tell us who mentioned Panama and why this person found Panama important.
 
Let me make this easy for you...Remember when you came out of left field with this one:

Post #192 at 4:15pm
The U.S. Canal Zone was sovereign U.S. soil until Carter gave away our canal.

Just as any U.S. naval ship is sovereign territory of the United States.
How was this relevant to the McCain discussion? You were attempting to get the uninformed to believe that the "U.S. Canal Zone" was part of the United States which is simply not true. You also want people to believe that Carter gave away "our" canal. The canal was not ours to give away.

Hey...do you need a travel agent cause you're a trip:peace
 
:roll:

Cute.

So then is it safe to assume that you have absolutely no argument to show that I'm wrong?

Obama's mother was an American citizen, and he was born on American soil; ergo, he's eligible for the presidency. I can't believe we're still having this absolutely inane discussion after five years.
 
Somebody told me the other day to quite bringing up the birthers, they arent that crazy anymore.
Obama's mother was an American citizen, and he was born on American soil; ergo, he's eligible for the presidency. I can't believe we're still having this absolutely inane discussion after five years.
 
I said something about the birthers, I really cant remember what we were talking about, the the conservative I was talking to told me to quit bringing up the birthers, they were over it. They arent that crazy. I did not believe it and still dont. I dont think any amount of truth changes the RWers opinions. They prefer to believe lies.
I'm not sure what that means.
 
Other: I understand that the system is rigged, so we're not getting a genuinely democratic choice.
 
Let me make this easy for you...Remember when you came out of left field with this one:

Post #192 at 4:15pm How was this relevant to the McCain discussion? You were attempting to get the uninformed to believe that the "U.S. Canal Zone" was part of the United States which is simply not true. You also want people to believe that Carter gave away "our" canal. The canal was not ours to give away.

Hey...do you need a travel agent cause you're a trip:peace

>" Panama offered to the U.S. what is known today as the Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty of 1903 widened the Zone to ten miles and more clearly stipulated American sover eignty over the Zone.

U.S. "all rights, power and authority within the Zone...which the U.S would possess and exercise as if it were the sovereign of the territory within which said land and waters are located to the entire exclusion of the exercise of the Republic of Panama of any suc h sovereign rights, power or authority The treaty was amended in 1936 and in 1955, but the sover eignty and perpetuity clauses have not been disturbed This treaty incorporated the Hay-Herran treaty but also It contained a sovereignty clause which granted t h e Further, in addition to acquiring the Zone by treaty,..."<

The Canal Zone: Panama and the United States




8 USC § 1403 - Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904

(a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.
(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United States employed by the Government of the United States or by the Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared to be a citizen of the United States.

8 USC § 1403 - Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on or after February 26, 1904 | Title 8 - Aliens and Nationality | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/politics/28mccain.html?_r=0
 
Obama's mother was an American citizen, and he was born on American soil; ergo, he's eligible for the presidency. I can't believe we're still having this absolutely inane discussion after five years.
Obama was, by his own admission in a book he authored, a "British subject" because his father was also a British subject; ergo, from a legal standpoint he is not eligible to be the president of the USA.

You seem to be having trouble distinguishing between a Natural Born Citizen and other citizens.
 
Obama's mother was an American citizen, and he was born on American soil; ergo, he's eligible for the presidency. I can't believe we're still having this absolutely inane discussion after five years.

Yes she was but she was a little "Red Diaper Baby" slut who got knocked up by a Marxist who wasn't even an American when she was still in high school and only 17 years old.

Here is the problem that surfaced.

>" But new questions about the status of BHO’s teen age mother Stanley Ann Dunham are surfacing as analysis at another web site is revealing a Congressional rule change for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986 puts in serious doubt Stanley Ann Dunham’s ability to confer citizenship status on her son.

Since Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born in 1961, this newly discovered law involves Dunham’s age because she was only 18 at time of delivery! The law says:

”When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.” Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet requisite status according to blog discovery. One commenter said, “She was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the U.S. as a Natural Born Citizen as she did not meet the residency requirements! Backing this statement up, another commenter reiterates:” The law specifically outlines the requirements for a CITIZEN mother to confer citizenship to her baby. Ann Dunham was NOT old enough-case closed!”..."<


With a Kenyan father Obama
 
Yes she was but she was a little "Red Diaper Baby" slut who got knocked up by a Marxist who wasn't even an American when she was still in high school and only 17 years old.

****ing hell that's uncalled for.

There is literally no level so low you won't stoop to.

Apacherat.

Get this through your head.

He's president.

It's ****ing done.

You continuing this birther crap only makes you look more foolish.
 
****ing hell that's uncalled for.

There is literally no level so low you won't stoop to.

Apacherat.

Get this through your head.

He's president.

It's ****ing done.

You continuing this birther crap only makes you look more foolish.

Oh, let him rant. I've had a bad kind of day and needed a good laugh.
 
>" Panama offered to the U.S. what is known today as the Hay-Bunau-Varilla Treaty of 1903 widened the Zone to ten miles and more clearly stipulated American sover eignty over the Zone.

U.S. "all ...]

Oh yes...you still want to discuss a treaty that wasnt even signed by a Panamanian. A treaty that the Secretary of State at the time said was advantageous to the US but not Panama. Men had history of forcing their will upon others through force, intimidation, lies, etc. This was no exception. Here is the point...the canal was not US territory and just because we deceived Panama still didnt give us the right to call that strip ours. So it will go down in history that McCains birth as natural born is highly controversial as compared to anyone else.
 
Obama was, by his own admission in a book he authored, a "British subject" because his father was also a British subject; ergo, from a legal standpoint he is not eligible to be the president of the USA.

You seem to be having trouble distinguishing between a Natural Born Citizen and other citizens.

Oh Muhammed...stop. You cant and wont win this argument so stop trying. Your argument is irrelevant and it truly proves your inability to stick with reality. Very sad indeed.
 
Obama's mother was an American citizen, and he was born on American soil; ergo, he's eligible for the presidency. I can't believe we're still having this absolutely inane discussion after five years.

Far right wing conservatives have a problem accepting that he's president.

We all know the reason why, for what it's worth.
 
Yes she was but she was a little "Red Diaper Baby" slut who got knocked up by a Marxist who wasn't even an American when she was still in high school and only 17 years old.

Here is the problem that surfaced.

>" But new questions about the status of BHO’s teen age mother Stanley Ann Dunham are surfacing as analysis at another web site is revealing a Congressional rule change for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986 puts in serious doubt Stanley Ann Dunham’s ability to confer citizenship status on her son.

Since Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. was born in 1961, this newly discovered law involves Dunham’s age because she was only 18 at time of delivery! The law says:

”When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.” Stanley Ann Dunham did not meet requisite status according to blog discovery. One commenter said, “She was not old enough to register Obama’s birth in Hawaii or anywhere else in the U.S. as a Natural Born Citizen as she did not meet the residency requirements! Backing this statement up, another commenter reiterates:” The law specifically outlines the requirements for a CITIZEN mother to confer citizenship to her baby. Ann Dunham was NOT old enough-case closed!”..."<


With a Kenyan father Obama

Bogus and very cut throat. Almost reminds me of that Christian charm. The president of The United States of America became president in 2008 and will end his second term in 2016. He will go down in history as the first black president who served 2 terms. (Period) get over it
 
I find it interesting that you backed off earlier but now that your evil protégé is on the scene you feel more confident. You're funy kid. My battery is running low but ill be charged up tomorrow to lay down some logic for you. Good night kid.
 
:roll:

Translation: I cannot counter your factually based argument, Muhammed.

I find it interesting that you backed off earlier but now that your evil protégé is on the scene you feel more confident. You're funy kid. My battery is running low but ill be charged up tomorrow to lay down some logic for you. Good night kid.
 
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