View Poll Results: Is the President YOUR President?

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  • Yes, I always support the President as the leader of my country

    28 33.33%
  • No, I'm willing to throw my country under the bus

    11 13.10%
  • Other

    45 53.57%
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Being as I no longer consent to the US govt, no, hes not my President. WHich doesnt stop him from telling me what to do.
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
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    That would imply wanting someone to be President, but as I said, I no longer consent to be governed by the US govt, so I no longer participate in federal elections. Florida is the highest authority (besides myself).

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Yes, the poll could have been worded better. Sorry about that. However, judging from the responses, the vast majority understood the intent.
    It wasnt really a poll, you were pointing out how people use rhetorical wording. Like when people call each other liars, which what they really mean is they disagree with an opinion.

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    The funny thing is the folks on the right saying they will move to Canada if Obama is elected - and they indicate healthcare as a huge reason.

    It was beyond funny, I always wanted to say - you get my point - screw this middle of the road stuff - go to Canada with an actual socialized medicine structure.
    IIRC it was Europe the Left favored.

    Even the Canadian system isn't as screwed up and expensive for their country as ObamaCare will be. [it's 30% paid for by the private sector]

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Uh, yeah. The thing about having an elected government is that sometimes you lose elections. The overall framework, and the offices, are still representing you. You have loyalty to the presidency, and to the congress, not to the president and the members of congress.
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is the President YOUR President?

    I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

    Have you ever had such sentiments?
    Really good question, although I wouldn't been as blunt. I know a lot of people who seem to have an unwritten definition of patriotism that essentially means devotion to their political party.

    I just stopped myself in mid-stream. Actually in fairness, its devotion to the American people who are always best served by their political party. To them other parties pose a threat to the American people. However what shows me they are good, honest and deceived people are:

    1. The strong emotion with which they attach to politics.
    2. Coupled with the double standard by which they judge those outside their party.

    If running up the debt and increasing the debt ceiling where destroying America under Obama, they should have at least been somewhat concerned when Reagan and W. Bush did it and include that in their historical judgements. Meanwhile they should make Bill Clinton the honorary Tea Party President Emeritus for paying off Reagan's through the roof credit cards that mortgaged our children's future.

    If Obamacare is going to destroy America, they should have been at least somewhat concerned with Romneycare.

    My conclusion: its base instinct tribalism that drives them, an innate behavioral characteristic of humans. They have to find "issues" to use as their arguments to avoid being called out as unexplainably biased but at its root, in my view their problem with Obama is principally driven by not being seen as "one of us" or their "issues" with Obama would also apply to Reagan, W. Bush and Romney. Just my opinion, everybody's got one.
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Whether he's the temporary leader of the country has nothing whatsoever to do with the country. Simply because I live in this country does not obligate me to support what the elected leadership does. That goes against everything the founding fathers wanted.
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    every POTUS I've lived under/with is my president. The exception is Nixon, i refused to recognize him.
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Yes, he/she is. Whether I vote for them or not, whether I agree with them or not. Unlike many of the posters, I will say I will give my Presidents more support than a lot of partisans would be willing to do. Didn't matter if it was Bush or Obama, support them both.
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