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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    In so much as I don't see the need for leaders, whoever holds the office is "my President". But it sounds like someone saying that Survivor is "my show".

    What are we? a pack of dogs?

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is the President YOUR President?

    I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

    Have you ever had such sentiments?
    If he's the President of the United States he's "my President". He may not be the President I voted for, and it doesn't mean I support every action he takes, but not agreeing with him or not voting for him doesn't magically change the fact that he's the President of my country and as such my President.

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    President Obama will be the President of the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

    Anyone who's not happy in the USA will always find that the entrances to the exits are wide open.

    Deal with it.
    So just to clarify...are you attempting to act as if you're somehow above the frey, while slyly suggesting that if a Republican wins the Presidency they won't really be President?

    Or are you just ignorantly prognosticating 3 years out from the electioni that the Democrats will simply automatically win, and put it there for no other reason other than to thumb your nose at the other side while trying to act like you're being above the hyper partisan frey?

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is the President YOUR President?

    I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

    Have you ever had such sentiments?
    He's my president insofar that he represents the country I live in. But I hesitate to call him "my president". He represents a lot of things I'm against.
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is the President YOUR President?

    I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

    Have you ever had such sentiments?
    Not really. President is President - the fragrant durian fruit on the top of our democratic system's bush.

    I probably could get a second, Polish citizenship and then have a choice, who do I consider "my President", really: Obama or Komorowski. (I like Komorowski better).

    But as things stand now, Obama is my president, even though I voted for Gary Johnson.

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    I did not vote for Obama, I do not agree with his ideals or most policies, that said he is the president of my country and therefor is my president. I will not always back him or defend him but I will acknowledge that he is the leader. The divide this country has will not likely be fixed by a person elected to the office of president. In my opinion we are much to far down that road for it to be fixed. We may have flashes of coming together, but a true united country will not likely ever happen again.

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is the President YOUR President?

    I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

    Have you ever had such sentiments?
    On political sites, certainly. This country only has one president at a time and he is everyone's president. Regardless whether you voted for him or not, ideology, political differences, everything. Yes, I tend to agree with you that people who say this do put party over country. But in their defense, so do most of our elected leaders in Washington today. For most it isn't about the future of the country, it is the next election. How can we, my party retain power or achieve power. Personally I think Senators Reid and McConnell epitomize this type of thinking. It is always my way or the highway. Something comes over to the senate from the house, Reid just tables it, no debate, no vote, the czar of the senate has spoken although the senate has the power to amend, change, add, delete anything to those bills. McConnell loves to filibuster everything and anything that the Democrats want, a sort of tit for tat. They are not leaders of the senate, they are party hacks.

    I wish President Obama would have reached across the aisle to find some Republicans he could have worked with when the GOP won the house back in 2010, he didn't. IKE did with LBJ, then democratic senate majority leader. Both JFK and LBJ when presidents did with Everitt Dirksen, then Republican minority leader. Even Reagan, that die hard conservative to hear some people talk, worked very closely with Tip O'Neal, Clinton to a lesser amount worked with Lott, Gingrich and Hastert after the Republican took over congress in 1994. President Obama hasn't even tried.

    Our gridlock and hate of government is what happens when the leaders of both parties take this approach. Back in the 90 60% of the electorate identified themselves with the two major parties, only 32% as independents, today those number read 50% who identify with the two parties and independents has increased to 47% a whopping 15 point increased as more and more people are becoming dissatisfied with both parties. Figures courtesy of gallup. Democrats has dropped from 38 to 30% of the electorate, Republicans from 30 to 20%.

    He's not my president fits in, for sure, Washington is filled with our elected officials who put loyalty to party way above loyalty to country. Who put good of the party way ahead of the good of the nation. As along as this continues, our future as a nation looks real bleak.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yup. I don't like what he does and frankly most of the time listening to him drives up my blood pressure, but he is my President. He's the leader of the country. You are absolutely correct - to say that someone from the other party is "not your President" is to elevate your partisan affiliation over your national affiliation. If that is your order of precedence, then that means you would be willing to harm the country in order to help your party, and I cordially invite you to take a swim to some other nation (Cuba, comes to mind) where Party is held in esteem more in line with your value system.


    BUU-uuut, that doesn't mean I will "always support him", so I can't vote that in the poll .
    Basically this is what I would consider the right answer. However, I would suggest that he did not mean always support his policies, but that you would always support him in his role as president. In your case, he is your commander in chief and I have no doubt you would obey any legal orders from him. It is still a poorly worded poll, but more for the second option to my mind.
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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    On political sites, certainly. This country only has one president at a time and he is everyone's president. Regardless whether you voted for him or not, ideology, political differences, everything. Yes, I tend to agree with you that people who say this do put party over country. But in their defense, so do most of our elected leaders in Washington today. For most it isn't about the future of the country, it is the next election. How can we, my party retain power or achieve power. Personally I think Senators Reid and McConnell epitomize this type of thinking. It is always my way or the highway. Something comes over to the senate from the house, Reid just tables it, no debate, no vote, the czar of the senate has spoken although the senate has the power to amend, change, add, delete anything to those bills. McConnell loves to filibuster everything and anything that the Democrats want, a sort of tit for tat. They are not leaders of the senate, they are party hacks.

    I wish President Obama would have reached across the aisle to find some Republicans he could have worked with when the GOP won the house back in 2010, he didn't. IKE did with LBJ, then democratic senate majority leader. Both JFK and LBJ when presidents did with Everitt Dirksen, then Republican minority leader. Even Reagan, that die hard conservative to hear some people talk, worked very closely with Tip O'Neal, Clinton to a lesser amount worked with Lott, Gingrich and Hastert after the Republican took over congress in 1994. President Obama hasn't even tried.

    Our gridlock and hate of government is what happens when the leaders of both parties take this approach. Back in the 90 60% of the electorate identified themselves with the two major parties, only 32% as independents, today those number read 50% who identify with the two parties and independents has increased to 47% a whopping 15 point increased as more and more people are becoming dissatisfied with both parties. Figures courtesy of gallup. Democrats has dropped from 38 to 30% of the electorate, Republicans from 30 to 20%.

    He's not my president fits in, for sure, Washington is filled with our elected officials who put loyalty to party way above loyalty to country. Who put good of the party way ahead of the good of the nation. As along as this continues, our future as a nation looks real bleak.
    : I just hope that whatever agendas are being followed die a quick death! Our country is too important to most of us to allow the current idiocy to continue!

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    Re: Is the President YOUR President?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is the President YOUR President?

    I occasionally hear people say, "President <insert name here> is not MY President!" Usually by people who intensely dislike the current President. To me, this places party loyalty, and to a lesser extent ideology, above country.

    Have you ever had such sentiments?
    No, I haven't. Have you? I suspect some deflection and subterfuge here. I don't know what would ever giver me that idea, but I suspect that the OP may have just such sentiments and needs to be heavily medicated. Relax. Mental health treatment is an integral part of the ACA. Just go to the site, and jump in the shopping cart. All will be well.

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