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    Minimum drop out age

    Ok so i would just like to ask something tha has been bugging me. Sould the drop our grade be lowered.I mean of course i accept that all kids should have an education, but why are we wasting money on so many kids who dont want to be there. We should have it so that say from 9th grade, if the kids want to drop out and riun their lifes, it is their choice. if the parents dont want them to, they can force them to stay in school, but you have all of these kids who are failing classes, ditching, sometimes even going to drugs, and we waste money putting them through year after years of school.

    So question: should the drop out grade be lowered from 11th grade

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Ok so i would just like to ask something tha has been bugging me. Sould the drop our grade be lowered.I mean of course i accept that all kids should have an education, but why are we wasting money on so many kids who dont want to be there. We should have it so that say from 9th grade, if the kids want to drop out and riun their lifes, it is their choice. if the parents dont want them to, they can force them to stay in school, but you have all of these kids who are failing classes, ditching, sometimes even going to drugs, and we waste money putting them through year after years of school.

    So question: should the drop out grade be lowered from 11th grade
    Very interesting question. I think I agree with you. Why not just accept that losers are losers and get on with hopefully better class sizes and more enthusiastic students.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    it's my opinion that dropping out should not be allowed at all, because there is a significant societal cost. a high school education should be the bare minimum; problem students can be channeled into at-risk programs.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's my opinion that dropping out should not be allowed at all, because there is a significant societal cost. a high school education should be the bare minimum; problem students can be channeled into at-risk programs.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's my opinion that dropping out should not be allowed at all, because there is a significant societal cost. a high school education should be the bare minimum; problem students can be channeled into at-risk programs.
    It's not that easy. It's not like 100% of the kids who drop out actually want to drop out.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    this may sound slightly insane, but....

    I don't think kids should be allowed to drop out at all - although if a state allows it, they could be homeschooled and the like.

    However, everyone should be required to get a HS diploma - if they have mental issues they should receive extra help, and if they are prone to not giving a damn they should be required to at least meet minimum standards.

    If they refuse, they also should recieve extra help, but in a different form, up to and including armed guards locking them in a classroom until they either die or learn.

    Ok that last bit might be SLIGHTLY overkill.


    Edit: Further, I would fully support a law that requires parents to attend some meetings between the parents, the teacher, and the kid.
    And by requires I mean if you don't show up an arrest warrant is issued and the police can drag your ass there. Pay the parents for their time if necessary, assuming their financial situation is that desperate. And don't allow them to be fired for not being at work during such a meeting.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    It's not that easy. It's not like 100% of the kids who drop out actually want to drop out.
    and that's why the option should be removed. barring severe physical illness, there isn't a good reason to not at least finish high school.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Ok so i would just like to ask something tha has been bugging me. Sould the drop our grade be lowered.I mean of course i accept that all kids should have an education, but why are we wasting money on so many kids who dont want to be there. We should have it so that say from 9th grade, if the kids want to drop out and riun their lifes, it is their choice. if the parents dont want them to, they can force them to stay in school, but you have all of these kids who are failing classes, ditching, sometimes even going to drugs, and we waste money putting them through year after years of school.

    So question: should the drop out grade be lowered from 11th grade
    In fact, the current educational system only hits 35-40% of the students. The rest respond to alternative educational methods. Correctly motivated, they will do just fine. The Nation wants a "one size fits all" method and it can't be done. Vocational high schools and trade schools hit another percentage. The students realize that they must acquire reading and math skills to do what they enjoy. Or be able to read the instructions on "How To Dye or Curl Hair." The status quo fights the alternatives because they feel it might cost them jobs. Even an occasional "loser" slips through the cracks and learns something. The answers can't be simplified.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and that's why the option should be removed. barring severe physical illness, there isn't a good reason to not at least finish high school.
    Why is it so important to finish HS? I mean, its a good idea and so is College but why do you think we should impose it on the unwilling. What if the youngster wants to open a business or travel the world instead?

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    I'm fine with it staying as is so long as schools are safe and not ****ty. As it stands, i favor removing drop out age altogether and shutting down dysfunctional schools.
    Last edited by chromium; 11-11-13 at 10:26 PM.

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