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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Among 16 to 24 year olds, the incarceration rate is sixty three times higher for dropouts. Plus, they are much more likely to live in poverty. That means the rest of us pick up the cost.

    By the Numbers: Dropping Out of High School | Dropout Nation | FRONTLINE | PBS

    They should at least have to complete high school.
    Nope they are people that need to be wapped upside the head by life. Then they either get their acts together or they don't. In the bell curve of life there are two sides to the bell.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Nope they are people that need to be wapped upside the head by life. Then they either get their acts together or they don't. In the bell curve of life there are two sides to the bell.
    "wapping" them upside the head costs us a bunch of money, and has all kinds of unintended consequence. no thanks. finish ****ing high school, and then get wapped.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    "wapping" them upside the head costs us a bunch of money, and has all kinds of unintended consequence. no thanks. finish ****ing high school, and then get wapped.
    You seem to think high school would matter. It don't not with those kids. You cant rescue them all. Not to mention they have to want to be rescued. Stupidity is part and parcel of living in a free society. Sorry. If you don't want to pay for them then make the cost of failure damn near unbearable. That means no welfare. No handouts and walking over the dead in the street. It also means as a society we get back to the notion that work of ANY kind is good and whatever work we do we should do to the best of our abilities even if its just raking up leaves. Be the best leaf raker you can be. Mike Rowe has a few insights that I find to be quite valid. He has a website called Profoundly Disconnected check it out.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's my opinion that dropping out should not be allowed at all, because there is a significant societal cost. a high school education should be the bare minimum; problem students can be channeled into at-risk programs.
    But what about the smart kids who already know the curriculum?

    Why should they be forced to listen to teachers who are obviously SADFIs?

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You seem to think high school would matter. It don't not with those kids. You cant rescue them all. Not to mention they have to want to be rescued. Stupidity is part and parcel of living in a free society. Sorry. If you don't want to pay for them then make the cost of failure damn near unbearable. That means no welfare. No handouts and walking over the dead in the street. It also means as a society we get back to the notion that work of ANY kind is good and whatever work we do we should do to the best of our abilities even if its just raking up leaves. Be the best leaf raker you can be. Mike Rowe has a few insights that I find to be quite valid. He has a website called Profoundly Disconnected check it out.
    there's no good reason to let kids drop out, and a lot of good reasons to not give them that option. They are not adults, and their decisions affect the rest of their lives, and ours, as well. Not to mention our pocketbooks.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    But what about the smart kids who already know the curriculum?

    Why should they be forced to listen to teachers who are obviously SADFIs?
    smart kids who are too advanced for high school should be able to test out and start college early.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    smart kids who are too advanced for high school should be able to test out and start college early.
    What if they don't want to waste their time in college?

    Most college teachers are SADFIs too, you know.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    What if they don't want college?

    Many college teachers are SADFIs too.
    ok, I'll ask you so that you'll have your excuse to post some partisan inflammatory slogan. What is a sadfi?

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    there's no good reason to let kids drop out, and a lot of good reasons to not give them that option. They are not adults, and their decisions affect the rest of their lives, and ours, as well. Not to mention our pocketbooks.
    They affect you directly how? If you keep supporting then yes they do affect your pocketbook. If you don't wish your pocketbook to be affected stop supporting them. They are able to make stupid decisions because there is no consequence to their actions. Stop absorbing the consequence then more will stop being stupid. There is a certain amount of stupid people no amount of help or cohersion is going dissuade them from being stupid. Free society cant be free from making poor decisions otherwise its not free.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    ok, I'll ask you so that you'll have your excuse to post some partisan inflammatory slogan. What is a sadfi?
    Urban Dictionary: SADFI

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