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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    and that's why the option should be removed. barring severe physical illness, there isn't a good reason to not at least finish high school.
    There are other things besides a physical illness that contribute huge obstacles to a high school diploma.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Why is it so important to finish HS? I mean, its a good idea and so is College but why do you think we should impose it on the unwilling. What if the youngster wants to open a business or travel the world instead?
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's my opinion that dropping out should not be allowed at all, because there is a significant societal cost. a high school education should be the bare minimum; problem students can be channeled into at-risk programs.
    On the Left Coast an "at-risk program" is called the California Youth Authority. The big house for juveniles where they continue their education on how to beat the system and make a buck without earning it.

    All high school dropouts should be required to become employed by the Conservation Corps picking up trash and clearing brush until they turn 18 years of age.

    Maybe requiring that you must have a high school diploma to be able to go on the doe including Obama phones.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's my opinion that dropping out should not be allowed at all, because there is a significant societal cost. a high school education should be the bare minimum; problem students can be channeled into at-risk programs.
    There is no question some students should not be in school when they don't want be. They pose a threat to the others education to a small degree, however we should not accept a society that thinks people can get by with no education.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    I mean of course i accept that all kids should have an education, but why are we wasting money on so many kids who dont want to be there.
    I've always been a big believer in the notion that you can't squeeze water out of a stone.

    If someone isn't going to learn/ benefit from our traditional HS education, why should we force the issue. Although I think it is good for people to attain some level of education, I bet we'd get a lot further if we made vocational education more widely available to people who'd otherwise drop out of school in 9th grade.

    Compulsory military/ cadet service could also be an option.

    So could verifiable work commitments, I had a job prior to entering 9th grade.

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    So question: should the drop out grade be lowered from 11th grade
    By the time I was in 9th grade I had a decent handle on things, and although I'm glad that I didn't drop out of school, I believe that I could've survived if I had.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Why is it so important to finish HS? I mean, its a good idea and so is College but why do you think we should impose it on the unwilling. What if the youngster wants to open a business or travel the world instead?
    Perhaps the requirements for a HS diploma or equivalent need modified.

    But I do think everyone needs at least some basic knowledge, which a HS diploma or equivalent gives.

    It irritates me that our educational system seemingly fails at this task in many cases - perhaps because it attempts to use the same template for everyone, rather than tailoring the learning experience to each student...

    Still though, as I see it the answer is NOT to just let kids avoid education.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by DSA View Post
    There is no question some students should not be in school when they don't want be. They pose a threat to the others education to a small degree, however we should not accept a society that thinks people can get by with no education.
    So put them in a special class. With armed guards for the teacher, or something.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    ...and your opinion? Or is this OPINION© pice exactly your thougyts?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps the requirements for a HS diploma or equivalent need modified.

    But I do think everyone needs at least some basic knowledge, which a HS diploma or equivalent gives.

    It irritates me that our educational system seemingly fails at this task in many cases - perhaps because it attempts to use the same template for everyone, rather than tailoring the learning experience to each student...

    Still though, as I see it the answer is NOT to just let kids avoid education.
    Too many years since I've been in school. I wanted to work. I wanted to save money. My parents didn't do "allowances". School bored the hell out of me.

    So I dropped out, got a GED, traveled the world, opened businesses and always had the advantage of starting earlier than my classmates.

    So, it depends on why you want to drop out and from what I can tell, "public education" is less than excellent since all of it is geared to the lowest denominator.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    If a kid wants to drop out of school at any age, he/she will do so. No matter what you do. Make a kid stay in school and all that kid will do is rebel and get all "F" wasting his/her time and the schools time. Forcing a kid to stay in school to get all "F's" is not in the best interest of the kid or the school. Having said that, public schools do not provide education as a trade school. Many students are not into a book learning education, but would excel in a trade school. Thus there should be an alternative for those students to attend. If they fail in the trade school, then so be it. They become one of the losers of society.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    ...and your opinion? Or is this OPINION© pice exactly your thougyts?



    Too many years since I've been in school. I wanted to work. I wanted to save money. My parents didn't do "allowances". School bored the hell out of me.

    So I dropped out, got a GED, traveled the world, opened businesses and always had the advantage of starting earlier than my classmates.

    So, it depends on why you want to drop out and from what I can tell, "public education" is less than excellent since all of it is geared to the lowest denominator.
    Now, see, that GED thing counts in my book - an acceptable alternative to a HS diploma.

    It's people who get neither that I think are being let slip through the cracks
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