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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    If we were to mandate high school diplomas, and everybody had one, would that not lower the meaning and value of a high school diploma?

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    'A' students work for 'C' students.
    I actually had people with university degrees working for me. People with uni degrees drive taxis these days, while uneducated people who can make or fix things can charge the earth for their services, if you can get them to even answer your frantic calls for help!

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    'A' students work for 'C' students.
    I take that as more of a negative reflection on our grading systems, rather than a positive reflection on bad grades.

    Or possibly, a negative reflection on who we put in charge....hmm....
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    'A' students work for 'C' students.
    I take that as more of a negative reflection on our grading systems, rather than a positive reflection on bad grades.

    Or possibly, a negative reflection on who we put in charge....hmm....
    I think it's intended to reflect that 'C' students think out side the box, are less conformist, and willing to take chances... and hence with greater risk comes greater reward.

    'A' students, on the other hand, are more nose-to-the-grindstone people less willing to take the chances. They just follow instructions.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    If we were to mandate high school diplomas, and everybody had one, would that not lower the meaning and value of a high school diploma?

    College degrees no longer carry the same weight they used to now that they're much more common than they used to be.
    From a competition for jobs perspective perhaps. From a "is this person somewhat literate and can they actually function in society" perspective no.

    School should, at a minimum, be about turning out reasoning, functional citizens.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I think it's intended to reflect that 'C' students think out side the box, are less conformist, and willing to take chances... and hence with greater risk comes greater reward.

    'A' students, on the other hand, are more nose-to-the-grindstone people less willing to take the chances. They just follow instructions.
    Yes.

    But WHY does our grading system reward nose-to-the-grindstone types more than those who think outside the box?

    THAT is what I'm saying might need addressed.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yes.

    But WHY does our grading system reward nose-to-the-grindstone types more than those who think outside the box?

    THAT is what I'm saying might need addressed.
    Because the purpose of primary and secondary education is to teach the essential facts. College is for thinking outside the box.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Because the purpose of primary and secondary education is to teach the essential facts. College is for thinking outside the box.
    Then the purpose of primary and secondary education needs changed.

    In fact, I think they BUILD the box that you then have to think outside of.

    Hmm...
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Ok so i would just like to ask something tha has been bugging me. Sould the drop our grade be lowered.I mean of course i accept that all kids should have an education, but why are we wasting money on so many kids who dont want to be there. We should have it so that say from 9th grade, if the kids want to drop out and riun their lifes, it is their choice. if the parents dont want them to, they can force them to stay in school, but you have all of these kids who are failing classes, ditching, sometimes even going to drugs, and we waste money putting them through year after years of school.

    So question: should the drop out grade be lowered from 11th grade
    Because they become a drain on society. Who pays /supports for the uneducated?

    I think parents should be held responsible for ensuring their dropout obtain some kind of education ...whether that means public education, military school, alternative school or home schooling .
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Because they become a drain on society. Who pays /supports for the uneducated?

    I think parents should be held responsible for ensuring their dropout obtain some kind of education ...whether that means public education, military school, alternative school or home schooling .
    Yes they do become a drain on society, and earlyer in the thread we talked about the possibility of specialty schools like engineering/construction school that they have to be in to complete their education. Graduates of high school can also go here but be given a leg up for completing school. Its a bit like collage/marines set up.
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