View Poll Results: Sould the drop out grade be lowered

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

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    Scientology literally has NOTHING to do with science. He made up some whack story about Aliens bringing humans here 75 million years ago and then we forgot who we were and where we came from. We are Xenu or whatever it was... nothing to do with science. Nothing. Science Fiction maybe... but not science.
    Ok well that makes a bit more sense then.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by JJB3333 View Post
    Ok well that makes a bit more sense then.
    I sure as hell hope it does!
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    I think the article is backwards.

    IMHO: The fact of a "High Rate of Imprisonment Among Dropouts " is not CAUSED by the act of dropping out, it is because the people that are prone to dropping out have a tendency to be Anti-Authority types with no real respect for the law.

    Forcing those kids to stay in school will not do a thing to effect the imprisonment rate of the type of person that they already are, anti-authority.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I think the article is backwards.

    IMHO: The fact of a "High Rate of Imprisonment Among Dropouts " is not CAUSED by the act of dropping out, it is because the people that are prone to dropping out have a tendency to be Anti-Authority types with no real respect for the law.

    Forcing those kids to stay in school will not do a thing to effect the imprisonment rate of the type of person that they already are, anti-authority.
    i don't agree. i see no benefit in giving an immature minor from a less than an ideal background the choice to terminate his or her education before graduating high school.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't agree. i see no benefit in giving an immature minor from a less than an ideal background the choice to terminate his or her education before graduating high school.
    I do not disagree with that... I just feel that the article has a flaw in the methodology. The causes of the incarceration run much deeper than the over-simplification of the status of being a drop-out.
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I do not disagree with that... I just feel that the article has a flaw in the methodology. The causes of the incarceration run much deeper than the over-simplification of the status of being a drop-out.
    i don't doubt that you are correct. i'm arguing that not letting kids drop out before a minimal level of education would have positive societal benefits.

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i don't doubt that you are correct. i'm arguing that not letting kids drop out before a minimal level of education would have positive societal benefits.
    So we keep kids who will not learn if you pay them in school or reform school until they reach your arbitrary date? What are the positive societal benefits of that?

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefgator View Post
    I think the article is backwards.

    IMHO: The fact of a "High Rate of Imprisonment Among Dropouts " is not CAUSED by the act of dropping out, it is because the people that are prone to dropping out have a tendency to be Anti-Authority types with no real respect for the law.

    Forcing those kids to stay in school will not do a thing to effect the imprisonment rate of the type of person that they already are, anti-authority.
    Personally, I think a requirement that kids reach a specific level of education before leaving school is a good idea.
    Obviously with exceptions for children who cannot, for one reason or another.

    I feel that being trained to a basic level of competence in various areas is an overall positive. That said, I probably wouldn't agree with some of the things being taught, and would suggest additional areas.

    For example, I think kids need a decent understanding of how to run their own finances
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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Why not focus on improving the curricular content?

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    Re: Minimum drop out age

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    So we keep kids who will not learn if you pay them in school or reform school until they reach your arbitrary date? What are the positive societal benefits of that?
    the positive benefit is that everyone has some minimal level of education. i can't see how that concept is even remotely controversial.

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